Bob Chill Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Back in some decent rates. Gonna hit the sledding hill for a few hours before it melts off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Nice little burst for the finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCWX Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 A solid 3 inches here. Started very heavy at 4:30ish. 32.0 outside. On top of 1.5 inches of ice..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Is it still gonna get cold or did we mess that up too? Some of the super cold forecasts were probably based on expecting a good snowpack. So perhaps not quite as cold as expected in areas that didn't get much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I think it might be raining imby, though the last burst(s) to the southwest keep trying us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpsnation Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Radar is filling in nicely to our South and West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Temp dropping kinda quick. Back to 32.7. Should be below freezing by the time precip shuts off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Maybe we've just reached a tipping point with UHI and climate change in and around the cities. Every non KU event is an elevation event now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris21 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Back in some decent rates. Gonna hit the sledding hill for a few hours before it melts off.[/quot Temp is falling now and with the low dec sun angle think it won't all just melt away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It is going to be tough to get anyone in DC to buy a snow forecast at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Maybe we've just reached a tipping point with UHI and climate change in and around the cities. Every non KU event is an elevation event now. As the author of that CWG article, I keep thinking to myself, what other factors could be doing this to us. I wonder how an expanding UHI may impact orographic effects from the valleys on the leeward side of the Apps. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Maybe we've just reached a tipping point with UHI and climate change in and around the cities. Every non KU event is an elevation event now. Seems like it. Something you said a year ago or something really stuck in my head. We're losing it on the margins. It was in reference to the season start/end but it's also kinda clear (or terrible luck) that the margin also includes marginal events. It's one thing when DC gets 2 and JYO gets 4-5. But it's another thing when DC keeps getting .4-.5 Another thing on the tipping point is our sanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsofprey02 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Those of you making fun of Tony Pann's 1-5" for Baltimore Metro area should probably apologize. He pretty much nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Pimpernel Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Maybe we've just reached a tipping point with UHI and climate change in and around the cities. Every non KU event is an elevation event now. I think even the Commutageddon event in Jan. 2011 was so-so in the District proper, if I'm not mistaken (and DCA got ~5")? Not that it was a bust by any means, but not nearly what it was as you went only a tad farther to the north and west. I got 8" of heavy, wet snow that fell in about 6 hours where I'm at, but heard it was a lot more "watery" (for lack of better wording) downtown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 lwx is so lol. https://twitter.com/wxkev/status/410423061309952000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardNole Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Looks to be over in Germantown with about 2 inches. Yes, a disappointment compared to the forecast but with the old snow left from Sunday's 4" underneath, it looks pretty wintry. Man I feel for Wes down in Calvert! I grew up just a few miles from there (specifically, 4 miles south of Dunkirk) and I know painfully well what it's like to be a snow hound living down there. When I got a DC-based job, I made a bee-line for the NW burbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar of Herndon Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Looks like last burst of SN here. Just eyeballing I would say 1.5". It is beautiful, but lot less than I was expecting. Sorry to read others did not even get 1". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I busted horribly on this. I said last night there was a low probability of a bust with this event. I feel bad for you guys down in the city. Just remember we are only 1/3 of the way through December. Lots of winter left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCAlexandria Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 CWG can't bust, they do hedge forecast. Too low? we called for that. in our forecast? we NAILED it! Boom? We called that too...... Clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose. IM a bitter weenie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDstorm Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The predicted rates of 1-2" per hour with this event did materialize for me. Unfortunately, those rates only lasted 10 minutes. MDstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlet Pimpernel Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 lwx is so lol. https://twitter.com/wxkev/status/410423061309952000 Well to LWX's credit, their experimental winter weather graphics showed a minimum amount of less than an inch across the area last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 DC winters are just not what they used to be anymore. Take this storm and put it somewhere in the 70s and 80's, and the WSW would have verified. Twice in a row, March 6 and today of this year, temps ended up being too warm and got too little snow despite good banding and radar returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scuddz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 lwx is so lol. https://twitter.com/wxkev/status/410423061309952000 He's not with lwx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 As the author of that CWG article, I keep thinking to myself, what other factors could be doing this to us. I wonder how an expanding UHI may impact orographic effects from the valleys on the leeward side of the Apps. Any thoughts? Well it is still pretty early and elevation is almost always favored but this still feels a whole lot like what we've seen in recent years on various dates in the calendar. In a lot of these storms the difference is a few degrees.. so it seems possible there is either a UHI influence or otherwise. Hard to say anything definitively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDstorm Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Those of you making fun of Tony Pann's 1-5" for Baltimore Metro area should probably apologize. He pretty much nailed it! My 0-8" prediction was better. MDstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Seems like it. Something you said a year ago or something really stuck in my head. We're losing it on the margins. It was in reference to the season start/end but it's also kinda clear (or terrible luck) that the margin also includes marginal events. It's one thing when DC gets 2 and JYO gets 4-5. But it's another thing when DC keeps getting .4-.5 Another thing on the tipping point is our sanity Yes, the margins I think includes these types of events where we expect 3-4" and get 1-2". I am trying to keep things in perspective given the date but it does seem like we keep replaying the same scenarios. Though in this case and snowquester it's probably partly rates and length of rates yet I'm not sure that would have even solved the problem here. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Well it is still pretty early and elevation is almost always favored but this still feels a whole lot like what we've seen in recent years on various dates in the calendar. In a lot of these storms the difference is a few degrees.. so it seems possible there is either a UHI influence or otherwise. Hard to say anything definitively. Every single model had the metro area below freezing at the surface by now, though. This temp bust will be interesting to examine-- temps were nailed by the models for the most part in the Sunday event, even running a bit warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar of Herndon Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Nice little burst for the finale Same here...I think about best rates of the storm except for when it started around 6:30 am this morning. I may end up with 2" after this burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Even out here...it accumulated and was all snow but its really wet and its dripping outside already....white rain is all it is...heck maybe jyo temps are right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 He's not with lwx He's a whiner whoever he is. He used to follow me on Twitter and stopped after I mad some comment about t-storm warnings locally. Again I LOVE NOAA/NWS, but so many thin skinned folks over there. Forecasting is a competition and fraught with disagreements. I know it probably sucks that they can't fire back like we do but no need to be all angry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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