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December 14/15 winter storm threat


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I think 18z gfs looks fine for boston. I think it would be mostly snow even close to the coast for most of that qpf thump between 1am and 7am. With just better ratio's w of cf in me mass. But im just lookin vaguely. Could be mashed potatoes in essex county early sun am.

Pretty straight w-e gradient along or just n of pike to the coast wrt 850's at 12z sun

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lol, better go with the NAM.  Much better model.

 

Meh...if more than 1-3" falls around the canal based on the runs of the last 2 days I'll be really surprised.  Warmth is always underestimated.

 

I have visions of Ray having a freak out as a dry slot rips up the east coast preceded by someone reporting IP on the coast about 3-5 hours early.

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Wow, mega lift. Even though it's closer, it's not really warmer...the big lift fights the warmth until the DS moves through. Almost unstable in the mid levels.

 

That's a huge thump for NE Mass and most of Mass north of the Pike in general... but man NE of BOS-ORH area just gets crushed.  It warms right as the best moisture is finishing up.  That's probably a foot or more for that area.

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Wow, mega lift. Even though it's closer, it's not really warmer...the big lift fights the warmth until the DS moves through. Almost unstable in the mid levels.

I was just about to post this. I looked at soundings and it's phenomenal through 60 for the coastal plain and then too warm by hr 66 but at that point the dry slot is moving through. so there isn't really much meaningful precip left anyways.

 

Seems like a solid thump with just a bit of rain at the very end.

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Meh...if more than 1-3" falls around the canal based on the runs of the last 2 days I'll be really surprised.  Warmth is always underestimated.

 

I have visions of Ray having a freak out as a dry slot rips up the east coast preceded by someone reporting IP on the coast about 3-5 hours early.

 

I think we'll just see this go back and forth for the next 24-36 hours...seems relatively locked in but the minute details won't be sorted out and as always, these things are essentially a nowcast.  The overall appeal of this system seems to stay the same though...its just weather it goes over the Cape over ACK or towards the Benchmark... I know it has big sensible weather changes for some of you guys in SE New England, but its essentially a nowcast.  Usually I'd lean SE on these, but with no real blocking and a tendency for a SE ridge so far this young season, it may be able to do a near the Cape track. 

 

Either way, this is a widespread snowfall for just about all... can't complain about that.  Everyone (except maybe the south shore) should end up with more snow on the ground than they started with and that's all that matters.

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Wow, mega lift. Even though it's closer, it's not really warmer...the big lift fights the warmth until the DS moves through. Almost unstable in the mid levels.

 

You're not kidding...those 700mb VV's are pretty sick, especially for not having an established 700mb circulation.  The GFS has so much isentropic lift though and with such a cold air mass in place, any moisture getting thrown back just explodes into tickling dendrites.  

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I'm noticing for ORH and TOL on east and north, the models sort of develop a nice blob of lift and QPF as the secondary takes shape. Last nights euro ensemble QPF has a nice 6hr blob of >0.4" in ern MA and RI, but it's pointed north along with the good moisture flux axis.

Reminds me of 12/21/08...someone in ne MA could achieve double digits...

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thumper the dumper

 

Yeah...even the NW trending runs don't really affect the overall outcome unless you are looking to jackpot.  This will come in as a steady moderate to heavy snow with great snow growth it doesn't take much to significantly reduce visibilities.  Looks really good for a lot of us from IJD to BTV and between. 

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