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No bare spots here yet.

Starting to see some bare spots on south facing sloped lawns, but still good coverage elsewhere. North facing lawns have lost little. The snow cover is putting up a good fight against the warm air given its high ice and water content, but it's going to be tough to keep past this weekend. The piles however, are looking more and more disgusting. Some of them I'm sure will be around at the end of next month.

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The Nexlab site has the HRRR and 4km NAM now...game over for other free model sites once they start adding more data (currently bare minimum of 2m temp, sim radar, etc)

 

Great news, thanks for the heads-up. I've been in love with that site this winter—fast loading of NCEP models, very decent model graphics, excellent radar and satellite data, and straightforward upper-air charts/mesoanalyses. If you were only able to use Nexlab, the Plymouth State site, and PSU e-wall, you'd be all set to watch the weather with a critical eye.

 

Unfortunately, Maue's 240-hour Euro snowfall charts are just too sexy to pass up, and I'll be darned if WeatherTap doesn't have the prettiest radar mosaics out there. ;)

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I've had a bare spot here for weeks now thanks to a giant Norway Spruce that blocks the snow and a spot that gets complete sunshine from sun up to sun down. Down to about 7" here.

That's what really struck me about the snow pack up in seacliff. They have some of the biggest oldest trees on the island. Huge white pines and Norways and under them the snow pack was still fairly uniform and certainly no bare spots even on south facing slopes.

What that says to me is during several marginal events when the south shore was nearer to freezing snow stuck to the trees. Up there cooler temps allowed more snow to pass through rather then just stick to the trees.

That and they really have gotten a crap load more snow and never really went above freezing during the last two big changeover events. As evidenced by the ice storm I witnessed up there during both events.

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That's what really struck me about the snow pack up in seacliff. They have some of the biggest oldest trees on the island. Huge white pines and Norways and under them the snow pack was still fairly uniform and certainly no bare spots even on south facing slopes.

What that says to me is during several marginal events when the south shore was nearer to freezing snow stuck to the trees. Up there cooler temps allowed more snow to pass through rather then just stick to the trees.

That and they really have gotten a crap load more snow and never really went above freezing during the last two big changeover events. As evidenced by the ice storm I witnessed up there during both events.

They really haven't had that much more snow. Long Beach is over 52" for the season and what does the North Shore have, 60"?

 

The snow depth on the south shore may not be as high as the North Shore, but the snow is quite tenacious due to it being so wet and frozen in with sleet/rain. Dry snow would have almost been gone by now.

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but the snow is quite tenacious due to it being so wet and frozen in with sleet/rain. Dry snow would have almost been gone by now.

 

how many inches of this stuff you think will be obliterated between now and sunday afternoon?

 

i'm guessing at least 1 foot+ will be taken out...... leaving anywhere from nothing to an inch or two here, locally.  i think there was roughly 15" on ave here after tuesday's snowfall.

 

but i'm really curious to see how this perma-frost reacts to the friday and saturday nuking... hell, today too

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how many inches of this stuff you think will be obliterated between now and sunday afternoon?

 

i'm guessing at least 1 foot+ will be taken out...... leaving anywhere from nothing to an inch or two here, locally.  i think there was roughly 15" on ave here after tuesday's snowfall.

 

but i'm really curious to see how this perma-frost reacts to the friday and saturday nuking... hell, today too

Hard to really say. I think yesterday we lost a few inches at most where I am.

 

There's actually a seabreeze today on the south wind. JFK is only 41 and Central Park is 48.

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how many inches of this stuff you think will be obliterated between now and sunday afternoon?

i'm guessing at least 1 foot+ will be taken out...... leaving anywhere from nothing to an inch or two here, locally. i think there was roughly 15" on ave here after tuesday's snowfall.

but i'm really curious to see how this perma-frost reacts to the friday and saturday nuking... hell, today too

It's getting crushed as we speak!

First time since the fall i got into my car and had to open the windows due to the heat. You can really feel that late winter sun starting to creep in. In fact it's almost mild here right now in the sun. I think there will be a huge difference in between sunny and shady spots. Certainly the biggest discrepancy we have seen yet. Imo all snow In the sun will be gone everywhere but way up in orange and Sussex

And jm I think that the areas I am referring to have even more snow then 60. Very micro climate ish when you get on the north side of the hills in a place like seacliff. A little bit of up lift and sound enhancement has them closer to 70 then 60.

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Starting to see some bare spots on south facing sloped lawns, but still good coverage elsewhere. North facing lawns have lost little. The snow cover is putting up a good fight against the warm air given its high ice and water content, but it's going to be tough to keep past this weekend. The piles however, are looking more and more disgusting. Some of them I'm sure will be around at the end of next month.

Snow cover taking a beating today

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What are you guys down to down there?

Honestly it's hard to tell because it's far from uniform. I should have shoved a yard stick in the ground last week in an area that was pretty level. After measuring, some areas in the sun have 4-6". Other areas in the persistent shade 8-10". I'm sure areas further south and closer to the water have less. I'm going to estimate 6-8" (probably closer to 6 than 8) or so in my immediate area. I wouldn't be shocked to have 2" or so by the end of tomorrow.
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It's getting crushed as we speak!

First time since the fall i got into my car and had to open the windows due to the heat. You can really feel that late winter sun starting to creep in. In fact it's almost mild here right now in the sun. I think there will be a huge difference in between sunny and shady spots. Certainly the biggest discrepancy we have seen yet. Imo all snow In the sun will be gone everywhere but way up in orange and Sussex

And jm I think that the areas I am referring to have even more snow then 60. Very micro climate ish when you get on the north side of the hills in a place like seacliff. A little bit of up lift and sound enhancement has them closer to 70 then 60.

It does feel beautiful in the sun today. As the day wears on you can really see the areas of people's property that are receiving more sun taking a beating to their snow pack. Shady areas are definitely melting but much slower.

As for the north shore area, between 60-65" looks like a good guess to me. Northshorewx or William, please chime in.

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Huge have/have not zone down there this season. South of I-195  lucked out in December with the freak 8" of snow band, but thereafter have really gotten the shaft.

 

True, Philly is at 58.4" vs only 27.5" this winter at ACY. It seems like the EPO based block favored Philly more than

ACY since storms ran a little too far north for ACY. 

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