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Winter 2013 - 2014 Banter Thread


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I didn't feel like responding in the 2/9-10 thread because this is a more overarching topic. I find it absolutely amazing that there are people complaining that forecasts are not "exact enough". Models aren't perfect, as illustrated by the numerous late breaking storms this year. One of the things they are worst at is forecasting precipitation amounts. The idea that meteorologists should be any more exact than they can is silly, imho. The key is to be as honest with the audience as possible. If that means 1-3, fine. 2-3 fine. Or perhaps my favorite, "4-8, but we think 5 is the most likely". Nothing wrong with admitting that forecasts are prone to error. 

 

My two cents. 

Good post.

 

We had folks complaining today about 1 - 3" snow forecasts being too wide a range. 

 

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Good post.

We had folks complaining today about 1 - 3" snow forecasts being too wide a range.

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1-3" is a perfectly reasonable range for an event like this. I feel like the guy who hates that range acted like it's the same as saying 12-36" . The low number times 3.

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 ...I feel like the guy who hates that range acted like it's the same as saying 12-36" . The low number times 3.

Yes I think you explained his point. It was about precision. A 1 - 3" forecast and a 12 - 36" being equally precise for their respective forecasts. I don't agree with it.

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Even though there are no real sure fire threats, I am amazed at the "train" of snow presently on the radar at our latitude across the US.  I never seen this before.  Sometimes, a front or other system may have this, but its usually freezing rain or mixed precip.

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NWS Upton with 82.6 inches of snow in the last 365 calendar days (February 8th, 2013 - February 7th 2014).

 

Islip / MacArthur Airport with 79.8 inches of snow in that same period.

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Hahaha You can always tell how a model run is going to go by the type of folks who start posting in the thread. An amped up coastal hugger and you get all the NW posters in here saying how great it looks, but if you get an offshore track then all the I-95 and coastal folks start posting. What's great for one crowd may not always be great for another, so keep that in mind when getting all excited about a particular model run. The focus when doing pbp and analysis should be on NYC as the epicenter anyway, not your backyard in my opinion.

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Can we get some more mods please? We have spam from other boards, discussions about zywts, and arguments about what constitutes the metro area in a storm discussion thread. Earthlight and Doug cant be here all the time (and sickman is praying for spring and probably fashioning a scratching device for his leg cast).

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Euro shows 6+ for NYC and more to the north and west

 

Models also have a storm for next Sunday

I took down the last reply after looking at the Plymouth state maps . nite and day with WB  . Worlds apart

 

You just need the SLP 50 to 75 miles east of AC or we can flip

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I fully expect to see the same cut off that we've been seeing all year. It's been every storm. Why is this going to be any different.

 

Well we still have the Euro. Heres to hoping the Euro hugs the coast and makes landfall on LI lol.. This NW fringe stuff the last few yrs is a joke. When coastal C NJ has as much snow as you do and you average double they do you know something is up lol. 

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