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where would they land the plane, it needs at least 1/2 a mile to land and it can't be a dinky field if they plan to use the plane again, also if they were to refuel it to fly it into something it would need at least a mile long runway to take off. I think this plane is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean and probably won't be found.

The problem people have is they cannot accept that yes, something can go wrong, and a big plane can just disappear. it disrupts our sense of complacency about flying. which we are led to believe is oh so safe.Stats are against you being in a crash. But what are the stats on surviving a crash? Not so good. So people assume there couldn't be a problem with the plane it had to be deliberate. More likely human error ( and emotional instability would be a kind of human error if this was a suicide by a crew member ) which accounts for a lot of plane crashes. Avianca crashed on LI years ago because they ran out of gas and were not persistent enough with the control tower that they were in serious trouble; also the crew did not want to challenge the pilot. American crashed in the mountains of Colombia because the pilot didn't believe his altitude monitor, which was telling him he was too low. Would we be talking terrorism if the pilots were Christians like, say, Timothy McVeigh?

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where would they land the plane, it needs at least 1/2 a mile to land and it can't be a dinky field if they plan to use the plane again, also if they were to refuel it to fly it into something it would need at least a mile long runway to take off. I think this plane is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean and probably won't be found.

 

Pakistan guarded and protected Bin Laden.  I would start there.

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Pakistan guarded and protected Bin Laden.  I would start there.

Hiding a man ain't like hiding a plane full of passengers. in the big city. And it was not Pakistan that guarded Bin Laden, maybe some elements of the secret police. Whitey effin Bulger was hiding in plain sight right here in the USA. For decades.

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If I still lived in Massapequa (ie, the NYC subforum), I'd be thrilled by a late March 2 or 6 inch snowstorm.

 

 

Now that I am down in Texas, anything less than Boxing Day or PDII leaves me feeling unfulfilled.

 

 

Not a forecast, but it seems the trend is for a fairly decent miss by a bomb, strong enough to get a little snow to locations near the Coast.  6 inches would have put us on the margin of a snow day at St. Martin of Tours in Amityville.

 

5 days of missed school in February, 1978, that, and Hurricane Belle and actually having the NYNG come to the door and tell us to evacuate (Belle was a dud, IMHO, except it was my first exposure to cable TV, the Harkins of North Massapequa had cable), well, if they'd had internet subforums then...

 

Why I think Metfan of the NYPD is one of my favorite posters.  I'm 50 now, and I do not deny my inner weenie.  Yes, if I had to rate the smartest non-tagger, it'd probably be Donald Sutherland.  Earthlight is solid, no doubt why he is a mod.

 

I don't even try to do actual in depth meteorology on this systems where placement of a ridge is crucial, and multiple disturbances have to phase.  I am strictly model-ology, trends and ensembles.

 

Now, severe weather and the tropics, I will stare at WV loops and compare to the model initialization, read the Albany guys on Kelvin waves and the such, look at actual balloon data, read NWS discos for the latest aircraft reported conditions, and deeply regret all the Texas RAOB sites are on the periphery of the state...

 

 

But potential triple phasers are almost like magic to me...  I know what the models show at various levels, I know what 500 mb pattern is best, but model-ology, persistence, ensembles, and a ranking with Euro with a slight lead over the GFS, and when they agree and are stable, I just accept it.  KU book, (and the second edition!)  the primer, once the storm is actually in progress, that is the calm, relaxed yet excited time, if that makes sense.

 

The potential blizzard/probable miss, is like your team down 8 points with 2 minutes left, 3 time outs, and only in the single bonus with the possession arrow pointing the other way.  Tense.  Too tense.

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If I still lived in Massapequa (ie, the NYC subforum), I'd be thrilled by a late March 2 or 6 inch snowstorm.

Now that I am down in Texas, anything less than Boxing Day or PDII leaves me feeling unfulfilled.

Not a forecast, but it seems the trend is for a fairly decent miss by a bomb, strong enough to get a little snow to locations near the Coast. 6 inches would have put us on the margin of a snow day at St. Martin of Tours in Amityville.

5 days of missed school in February, 1978, that, and Hurricane Belle and actually having the NYNG come to the door and tell us to evacuate (Belle was a dud, IMHO, except it was my first exposure to cable TV, the Harkins of North Massapequa had cable), well, if they'd had internet subforums then...

Why I think Metfan of the NYPD is one of my favorite posters. I'm 50 now, and I do not deny my inner weenie. Yes, if I had to rate the smartest non-tagger, it'd probably be Donald Sutherland. Earthlight is solid, no doubt why he is a mod.

I don't even try to do actual in depth meteorology on this systems where placement of a ridge is crucial, and multiple disturbances have to phase. I am strictly model-ology, trends and ensembles.

Now, severe weather and the tropics, I will stare at WV loops and compare to the model initialization, read the Albany guys on Kelvin waves and the such, look at actual balloon data, read NWS discos for the latest aircraft reported conditions, and deeply regret all the Texas RAOB sites are on the periphery of the state...

But potential triple phasers are almost like magic to me... I know what the models show at various levels, I know what 500 mb pattern is best, but model-ology, persistence, ensembles, and a ranking with Euro with a slight lead over the GFS, and when they agree and are stable, I just accept it. KU book, (and the second edition!) the primer, once the storm is actually in progress, that is the calm, relaxed yet excited time, if that makes sense.

The potential blizzard/probable miss, is like your team down 8 points with 2 minutes left, 3 time outs, and only in the single bonus with the possession arrow pointing the other way. Tense. Too tense.

I always wondered what belle was like in SE Nassau. I was under the impression that it was forcasted to weaken and thus there wouldn't have been evacuations. How did it go down?
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I lived a block from the Great South Bay in Nassau Shores, the houses across the street backed up to a canal, and our storm sewers had 'killies' in the water, and sometimes I'd drop pieces of meat from the fridge to watch a mini-feeding frenzy.

 

No flooding at all, only damage besides power was a lot of weeping willow trees went down, one punching a hole in a neighbor's roof.

 

Blizzard of 1978, water came up from the storm sewer, snow was discolored over it, how I knew.

 

 

Used to use metal mash traps with two entrances, baited with anything, that caught 'killies' and small shrimp.  Killies were good live bait for 'snapper' fishing.  I *think* snapper are immature bluefish, they school together, you either caught a dozen in an hour or just struck out.

 

Some had some kind of gill parasite, looked like a white potato bug, but I never ate the gills anyway.  I'd clean and fillet them, and when Dad was BBQing anyway, I'd cook some up on foil.  Weird, but I tried a little cinnamon once with the S&P, and it worked.

 

 

Oh, my old house on Leewater by Curlew in Nassau Shores would have flooded several feet deep in Sandy (I have seen YouTubes from neighboring, parallel streets), and had a basement (with a sub pump), but my sister says they repaired it.

 

 

BTW, mainly from the Sunrise Highway trips and the LIRR, but I always thought of Long Beach as basically being part of Queens.  Rockville Centre was almost Queens for me.  Dad's mother was bedridden in Glendale, although we usually took the Southern State into Queens, and from there, I just remember a highway that went under another highway with an elevated train line on top.  WE'd do Sunrise to a highway in Seaford, and then the Southern State.  Rumor in the 1970s was the Seaford expressway would be extended across Long Island Sound via a bridge.  That'd have knocked about two hours off the trips to Cape Cod (Harwichport) we did several Summers.  Also vacationed once near where my Mom's mother was from (and is buried), Marshfield.

 

Ah, nostalgia...

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Here is an advisory:

 

NYC WEATHER FORUM, NEW YORK, NY.

2:36 PM EDT SAT MAR 22 2014  
 
...WINTER WEATHER  WISHCASTING  ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 12 AM EDT THIS  
THURSDAY .  
 
* LOCATIONS...MARCH 25 -26 POTENTIAL BOMB PART II THREAD

* HAZARD TYPES...WEENIEISM.  
 
* ACCUMULATIONS...UP TO 20 PAGES OF WISHCASTING  
 
* TIMING...THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING  
 
* IMPACTS...HIGH IMPACT. WISHCASTING ACCUMULATIONS WILL RESULT IN EXTREME NAVIGATING   
DIFFICULTIES THROUGH THE TREAD
 
 
* TEMPERATURES...AROUND 210 WHEN HEATED DISAGREEMENTS START.  

 

* WINDS - QUITE A BIT OF HOT AIR WINDS 

 

* VISIBILITIES...WITH SNOW GOGGLES ON UNLIMITED VISIBILITY MUCH SNOW WILL FALL 
 
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...  
 
IF TRAVELING THROUGH THIS THREAD ...SLOW DOWN AND PLAN EXTRA TIME TO NAVIGATE THROUGH IT.

 

 

..NEG NAO
 

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