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Winter 2013 - 2014 Banter Thread


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JB better watch out...

Mike the Hobbyist had this storm weeks ago…..

He has had the hot hand…go to vegas and watch This storm will be remembered as the storm that made Mike famous…(on this board)only

 

 

wishing and a hoping…dusty springfield circa 1967

for all the youngsters out there who don't know who she is

 

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Some clown is arguing with me that getting a blizzard without a negative NAO is impossible ......

the list of indices for NYC 10" snowfalls...AO/PNA/NAO/Enso...

snowstorm...date......AO......PNA......NAO......Enso/MEI....

12" 03/18/1956....0.470....0.186.....-0.225.....La Nina

12" 03/20/1958...-2.522....0.067.....-0.830.....El Nino

14" 12/21/1959....1.266....0.114......1.032.....Neutral-

15" 03/03/1960...-1.265...-0.834......0.249.....Neutral-

15" 12/11/1960...-0.343....1.527.....-0.316.....Neutral-

10" 01/19/1961...-1.506....1.587......0.392.....Neutral-

18" 02/03/1961....0.621....0.489.....-0.126.....Neutral-

13" 01/12/1964....0.385....0.654.....-1.180.....Weak El Nino

15" 02/06/1967....1.180....0.732......0.230.....Weak La Nina

15" 02/09/1969...-3.114...-0.325......0.044.....Weak El Nino

14" 01/19/1978...-0.347....0.262......0.230.....Weak El Nino

18" 02/06/1978...-3.014....1.188.....-0.093.....Weak El Nino

13" 02/19/1979...-0.697...-0.042......0.254.....Neutral+

18" 02/11/1983...-1.806....0.845.....-0.567.....El Nino

10" 03/13/1993....0.764...-0.179......0.472.....Weak El Nino

13" 02/11/1994...-0.862...-0.454......0.927.....Neutral+

11" 02/04/1995....1.429....1.604......0.437.....El Nino

20" 01/08/1996...-1.200....0.447.....-0.392.....Weak La Nina

11" 02/16/1996....0.163...-0.421......0.534.....Weak La Nina

12" 12/30/2000...-2.354....1.075.....-0.537.....Weak La Nina

20" 02/16/2003....0.128....0.681......0.836.....El Nino

14" 12/05/2003....0.265....0.784.....-0.197.....Neutral+

10" 01/25/2004...-1.686....0.164.....-0.541.....Neutral+

14" 01/25/2005....0.356....1.098.....-0.035.....El Nino

27" 02/11/2006...-0.156....1.658......0.136.....Neutral-

11" 12/19/2009...-3.413....0.549.....-1.833.....El Nino

10" 02/09/2010...-4.266....0.622.....-1.136.....El Nino

21" 02/25/2010...-3.818....0.087.....-0.219.....El Nino

20" 12/26/2010...-2.631...-0.284.....-0.834.....La Nina

19" 01/26/2011...-1.683....1.233.....-0.142.....La Nina

11" 02/09/2013...-0.700....0.403......0.219.....neutral-

11" 01/21/2014...-1.843....1.172......0.137.....neutral-

12" 02/13/2014....0.182...-1.097......0.690.....neutral-

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the list of indices for NYC 10" snowfalls...AO/PNA/NAO/Enso...

snowstorm...date......AO......PNA......NAO......Enso/MEI....

12" 03/18/1956....0.470....0.186.....-0.225.....La Nina

12" 03/20/1958...-2.522....0.067.....-0.830.....El Nino

14" 12/21/1959....1.266....0.114......1.032.....Neutral-

15" 03/03/1960...-1.265...-0.834......0.249.....Neutral-

15" 12/11/1960...-0.343....1.527.....-0.316.....Neutral-

10" 01/19/1961...-1.506....1.587......0.392.....Neutral-

18" 02/03/1961....0.621....0.489.....-0.126.....Neutral-

13" 01/12/1964....0.385....0.654.....-1.180.....Weak El Nino

15" 02/06/1967....1.180....0.732......0.230.....Weak La Nina

15" 02/09/1969...-3.114...-0.325......0.044.....Weak El Nino

14" 01/19/1978...-0.347....0.262......0.230.....Weak El Nino

18" 02/06/1978...-3.014....1.188.....-0.093.....Weak El Nino

13" 02/19/1979...-0.697...-0.042......0.254.....Neutral+

18" 02/11/1983...-1.806....0.845.....-0.567.....El Nino

10" 03/13/1993....0.764...-0.179......0.472.....Weak El Nino

13" 02/11/1994...-0.862...-0.454......0.927.....Neutral+

11" 02/04/1995....1.429....1.604......0.437.....El Nino

20" 01/08/1996...-1.200....0.447.....-0.392.....Weak La Nina

11" 02/16/1996....0.163...-0.421......0.534.....Weak La Nina

12" 12/30/2000...-2.354....1.075.....-0.537.....Weak La Nina

20" 02/16/2003....0.128....0.681......0.836.....El Nino

14" 12/05/2003....0.265....0.784.....-0.197.....Neutral+

10" 01/25/2004...-1.686....0.164.....-0.541.....Neutral+

14" 01/25/2005....0.356....1.098.....-0.035.....El Nino

27" 02/11/2006...-0.156....1.658......0.136.....Neutral-

11" 12/19/2009...-3.413....0.549.....-1.833.....El Nino

10" 02/09/2010...-4.266....0.622.....-1.136.....El Nino

21" 02/25/2010...-3.818....0.087.....-0.219.....El Nino

20" 12/26/2010...-2.631...-0.284.....-0.834.....La Nina

19" 01/26/2011...-1.683....1.233.....-0.142.....La Nina

11" 02/09/2013...-0.700....0.403......0.219.....neutral-

11" 01/21/2014...-1.843....1.172......0.137.....neutral-

12" 02/13/2014....0.182...-1.097......0.690.....neutral-

Awesome, thanks for the info

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2 weeks and no sign of flight mh370 and you guys worried about a snowstorm going east. That missing flight is actually starting to bother me and I have no idea why

While I'm sure people are worried about it and we pray for those families. ... This is a weather forum not an aviation forum so please forgive us for discussing a potential snowstorm.

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While I'm sure people are worried about it and we pray for those families. ... This is a weather forum not an aviation forum so please forgive us for discussing a potential snowstorm.

 

I understand and I apologize, I just wanted to share my frustration on the disappearance of that plane with the only forum that I like to visit on the internet. But in terms of weather discussion, visibility at the new potential search zone is really low. 

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I understand and I apologize, I just wanted to share my frustration on the disappearance of that plane with the only forum that I like to visit on the internet. But in terms of weather discussion, visibility at the new potential search zone is really low.

No need to apologize brother :)

Trust me I'm praying for those involved and concerned until they find something definitive because who knows where that plane could be and what it could be used for.

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I understand and I apologize, I just wanted to share my frustration on the disappearance of that plane with the only forum that I like to visit on the internet. But in terms of weather discussion, visibility at the new potential search zone is really low. 

I'm telling you this as a mental health professional: do not personalize tragedies that don't  involve people you know and care for. Want to get upset? Go rent The Act of Killing; a million people "disappeared" in Indonesia in the 1960's and no one raised an eyebrow. And it wasn't an accident. Back to the weather.

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Passengers with stolen passports on board. Screams terrorism. No Terror group claiming credit, odd. My guess is the aircraft is at the bottom of the ocean.

Not really. A fire on board could be the culprit. we simply don't know. An act of terrorism is not effective if people do not know it was an act of terrorism; the purpose is to terrify. Emotional instability among the crew would be a better explanation. But I do not think we are going to get an explanation, and no terrorist organization has claimed credit. And the plane might never be found. A passenger plane disappeared in one of the Great lakes in the 1950's. That's a lot less water.

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Passengers with stolen passports on board. Screams terrorism. No Terror group claiming credit, odd. My guess is the aircraft is at the bottom of the ocean.

I think some group would have claimed it if they had used the airplane to do even more potential damage to some city, planes have been hijacked before so I think they had more planned but failed for a reason we may never know, just my take on this situation.

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I think some group would have claimed it if they had used the airplane to do even more potential damage to some city, planes have been hijacked before so I think they had more planned but failed for a reason we may never know, just my take on this situation.

the reason they might not be claiming responsibilty is because the attempt got screwed up -they still haven't explained fully those fake stolen passports - also  reminds me of what happened on 9/11 when one of the hijacked airplanes crashed in the field in  PA - I bet airport security is really going to be tight the next few months - anyone fly lately ?

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the reason they might not be claiming responsibilty is because the attempt got screwed up -they still haven't explained fully those fake stolen passports - also reminds me of what happened on 9/11 when one of the hijacked airplanes crashed in the field in PA - I bet airport security is really going to be tight the next few months - anyone fly lately ?

Im going to be flying next month down to NC. Cant say its not the slight bit concerning to me
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I think some group would have claimed it if they had used the airplane to do even more potential damage to some city, planes have been hijacked before so I think they had more planned but failed for a reason we may never know, just my take on this situation.

 

Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe no one is taking credit because just possibly their plan is not fulfilled yet?  They will take credit once it has been fulfilled, if that is what is going to happen.  I truly hope that they find the plane in the ocean but my fear is that there are other plans for this plane that will be put to  use after things die down a bit.

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Did you guys ever stop to think that maybe no one is taking credit because just possibly their plan is not fulfilled yet? They will take credit once it has been fulfilled, if that is what is going to happen. I truly hope that they find the plane in the ocean but my fear is that there are other plans for this plane that will be put to use after things die down a bit.

where would they land the plane, it needs at least 1/2 a mile to land and it can't be a dinky field if they plan to use the plane again, also if they were to refuel it to fly it into something it would need at least a mile long runway to take off. I think this plane is somewhere in the middle of the Indian Ocean and probably won't be found.
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Yes I do consider that a possibility which scares me, I just feel that the fact they don't have any clue as to where is could mean it crashed in the ocean. It could also be on some remote island that has been recognized as a possibility. There are so many theories as to what happened to it from hijacking to the pilots being involved so I don't know what to believe at this point

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