December Banter Thread 2

[Bob Chill]

I picked a great night to go out of town, party, and forget about models. Models schmodels.

[mitchnick]

well, in early Dec. when we had a decent pattern, HM said the wave lengths will change as we go into winter and so we see what that's getting us

I'm thinking we have to wait for FEB now for something decent when they start changing again since post early DEC change = squat

[mappy]

You guys are funny. It's just the weather

[jnis]

well, in early Dec. when we had a decent pattern, HM said the wave lengths will change as we go into winter and so we see what that's getting us

I'm thinking we have to wait for FEB now for something decent when they start changing again since post early DEC change = squat

I hope we don't have to wait that long, but I guess that is our "big" month in terms of climo.

[PhineasC]

You've used them?  Based on the quick web search that I did, they look great.  There's no question that I am going to outlive my leylands, or at least outlive a time when I can continue to maintain them, so I'd definitely consider these as a replacement.

Yeah, I have three on my property. They hold up great with the snow and ice (when we get some). 

[needbiggerboat]

Silly me...I woke up this morning half thinking the pattern thread would have a few extra pages to it.

jack frost and north arlington may indeed make that happen before the clock strikes noon

[NorthArlington101]

jack frost and north arlington may indeed make that happen before the clock strikes noon

I can try. 

[H2O]

I enjoy the landscaping posts more than the boo hoo ones

[Kay]

I enjoy the landscaping posts more than the boo hoo ones

 

I thought you were about to say "the poo ones"...but that was Christmas. 

 

Also learning things about trees.

[mattie g]

I enjoy the landscaping posts more than the boo hoo ones

You can't handle the truth!

[nw baltimore wx]

I enjoy the landscaping posts more than the boo hoo ones

 

The garlic that I planted in October is doing great! 

[Ian]

lolz

[ThePhotoGuy]

I am not sure what was more funny, the 84 hour nam talk or the discussion of copying/pasting.

[Ian]

I didn't realize I moved to Huntsville till recently. 

[North Balti Zen]

Not having anything to track is even sadder. This whole thing just sucks so hard. 

[Ian]

Not having anything to track is even sadder. This whole thing just sucks so hard. 

We still have the UBER cold that the models have been overdoing all winter long. Maybe.. I haven't actually looked.

[87storms]

its taken me a while, but i think i'm finally starting to not care as much if it snows.  it's become reality that we just don't do snow here like we used to.

 

i'm actually enjoying this rainy sunday and kind of want it to be like yesterday again.  it felt good outside.  

[87storms]

I didn't realize I moved to Huntsville till recently. 

 

lol.  i had considered moving to atlanta for a while now, but maybe i don't need to anymore.

[North Balti Zen]

We still have the UBER cold that the models have been overdoing all winter long. Maybe.. I haven't actually looked.

 

Even if we did, tracking cold doesn't do a lot for me (any more than tracking hot does). I guess that's all we have anymore though.

 

Growing up in Ohio and then living in Memphis for 12 years before moving to Baltimore turned me into a severe weather nut, and that has been beaten out of me since moving here too. 

 

Double sigh.

[North Balti Zen]

The three- year snow drought that the beltways around DC and Balt and the I-95 corridor in-between is under is almost laughable (if it didn't hurt to laugh). 

 

If I did a census of the cities that have exceeded a 4 inch snowfall since we last (and if I lowered it to 2 inches for DCA) I bet it would be jaw-dropping. I know my old stomping grounds in Memphis and Nashville have beaten that mark in the last three years, and I am certain more southern cities have as well.

 

We are terrible. 

[North Balti Zen]

PS: This is my version of a meltdown. 

[Ian]

The three- year snow drought that the beltways around DC and Balt and the I-95 corridor in-between is under is almost laughable (if it didn't hurt to laugh). 

 

If I did a census of the cities that have exceeded a 4 inch snowfall since we last (and if I lowered it to 2 inches for DCA) I bet it would be jaw-dropping. I know my old stomping grounds in Memphis and Nashville have beaten that mark in the last three years, and I am certain more southern cities have as well.

 

We are terrible. 

 

Might be a good idea for an article.  Though I've written so much about how we don't get snow it's starting to become painful... have one in the queue too.

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

The three- year snow drought that the beltways around DC and Balt and the I-95 corridor in-between is under is almost laughable (if it didn't hurt to laugh). 

 

If I did a census of the cities that have exceeded a 4 inch snowfall since we last (and if I lowered it to 2 inches for DCA) I bet it would be jaw-dropping. I know my old stomping grounds in Memphis and Nashville have beaten that mark in the last three years, and I am certain more southern cities have as well.

 

We are terrible. 

 

Yeah, while some individual areas may have gotten 4" (or even >2"), DCA obviously has not, and those amounts have not been anything like area-wide.  I don't even think IAD and BWI have cracked 4", though both broke the 2" ceiling on March 25 if I recall correctly.  Amazing that Jan. 26, 2011 is the last "large scale" event we've had.

[Ian]

Yeah, while some individual areas may have gotten 4" (or even >2"), DCA obviously has not, and those amounts have not been anything like area-wide. I don't even think IAD and BWI have cracked 4", though both broke the 2" ceiling on March 25 if I recall correctly. Amazing that Jan. 26, 2011 is the last "large scale" event we've had.

I think IAD and BWI had 3.2" late mar.

[JamieOber]

I saw someone post this a few weeks ago on FB and appropriate on this rainy day: more than 80% of all Dec/Jan/Feb precip is rain in DCA.

 

I tried what I thought might be the way to come to this figure, and I took average precip for those three months:

 

13.7 of average snow for DCA...I just went with 10:1 ratios to come up with 1.37.

 

8.47 of average precip.

 

That comes to 16.1% of precip falls as measurable snow during those months. Not exact, of course, but I imagine this is fairly close.

 

Even up here, like 38% of precip falls as measurable snow.

Sobering and puts things into perspective.

[clueless]

Would be fitting if this year turns out worse than last.

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I think IAD and BWI had 3.2" late mar.

 

Sounds about right...so they actually did crack the 2" barrier.  But not many other people did, and it was not a general kind of thing.  Obviously at that time of year it was more of an elevation type event.

[JamieOber]

The garlic that I planted in October is doing great! 

I've given up trying to figure that plant out. It seems to grow no matter how cold it is.

 

I've also learned that the idea that you gotta get bulbs in by first frost or they won't do well is a load of hooey.

[EastCoast NPZ]

So....  Cutler vs. Packers in the cold and wind, or Stafford vs. Vikings indoors w/o Calvin Johnson?

[Ian]

Sounds about right...so they actually did crack the 2" barrier.  But not many other people did, and it was not a general kind of thing.  Obviously at that time of year it was more of an elevation type event.

 

I think a lot of folks broke it on that day if just barely. I probably did here in NW DC though right on the line. I got out after there had been some melting but was right around 2". 

 

Though it was short that was a pretty unusual event of late for so late. So it had that going for it as far as thinking fondly.  I do think those that 2.1" would probably still consider themselves in a bit of a snow drought though... all snow lovers are looking for like a 3-6" probably. To me that's when things get real... 4" is my typical benchmark for better photo ops though I'd jump at the chance for 3" right now heh.