Ian Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 CWG does seemingly call out the NWS everytime they screw up on a local forecast, so I don't blame them for being a bit defensive when it comes to the CWG. I'm not sure that has anything to do with it in this case, but NWS should get over thinking they are immune to criticism. The uproar (a bunch of it misguided) after Sandy proves quite nicely how important asking questions and wanting to see resources used properly is a good thing. NWS has just mostly been in a position where their products are regurgitated without comment. That's not how the world works anymore thanks to "social media." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtstack Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I'm not sure that has anything to do with it in this case, but NWS should get over thinking they are immune to criticism. The uproar (a bunch of it misguided) after Sandy proves quite nicely how important asking questions and wanting to see resources used properly is a good thing. NWS has just mostly been in a position where their products are regurgitated without comment. That's not how the world works anymore thanks to "social media." Unfortunately it's not as simple for NWS to truly speak their mind as it is for a small private enterprise like CWG. They are a government agency and have a lot of bureaucracy to deal with. A lean private enterprise can be much more efficient, particularly in a local market like this. I'm sure they can handle the criticism if it is warranted, but sometimes it seems like CWG takes it beyond constructive criticism, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 How does Columbus have 17 inches of snow already this winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 CWG does seemingly call out the NWS everytime they screw up on a local forecast, so I don't blame them for being a bit defensive when it comes to the CWG. I think we more often then not try not to be critical of the NWS but occasionally end up disagreeing with watches or warnings and then pretty much have to either regurgitate them or give their warning and then discuss why we disagree and have less snow or whatever forecast. I know I always step very lightly when disagreeing as I know the local forecast office has a tough job and their responsibilities are different than ours. Being a forecaster for any entity requires a thick skin as your always open to criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Unfortunately it's not as simple for NWS to truly speak their mind as it is for a small private enterprise like CWG. They are a government agency and have a lot of bureaucracy to deal with. A lean private enterprise can be much more efficient, particularly in a local market like this. I'm sure they can handle the criticism if it is warranted, but sometimes it seems like CWG takes it beyond constructive criticism, IMHO. Yes, very true. At the same time I wish everyone could recognize that someone might think certain practices are off and still think the employees are mostly awesome. I have once or twice wished the pronouns used were "I" instead of "we" but that's blog talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 How does Columbus have 17 inches of snow already this winter? It's another north and west winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtstack Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yes, very true. At the same time I wish everyone could recognize that someone might think certain practices are off and still think the employees are mostly awesome. I have once or twice wished the pronouns used were "I" instead of "we" but that's blog talk. Yeah I don't think CWG has it in for NWS per say. NWS is probably long overdue for overhauling their dated practices, as much of the federal government probably is, but given the budget cuts of late with sequestration and all, I'm sure they are running on fumes currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Snow cover really bad right now. Drove west to pittsburgh today. Only saw snow in shady areas in the laurel highlands around somerset on the pa turnpike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 lol gfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 lol gfs Really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Really! wake me up when northern stream dominated winters end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Kinda sucks for everyone, even in the SNE lol yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 wake me up when northern stream dominated winters end Constant parade across the north. Their on train tracks. Even arctic air masses can't push them south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtstack Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Constant parade across the north. Their on train tracks. Even arctic air masses can't push them south. The southern stream looks solid on radar right now. But that only works when we don't have cold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtstack Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 This is by far the worst drought I've witnessed in my 35 years of weather watching in DC. I guess we had it coming after the 09-10 winter, but it's been tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 lol yoda Just trying to cause trouble tonight I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I don't like Leyland Cypress. They are weak and susceptible to disease. Thuja "Green Giant" is a better bet. Grows rapidly and has a better root system and disease resistance. You've used them? Based on the quick web search that I did, they look great. There's no question that I am going to outlive my leylands, or at least outlive a time when I can continue to maintain them, so I'd definitely consider these as a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Thuja Giants > Leyland Cypress > January Patter Discussion Thread (ie, wth is going to happen on Thursday before I kick my dog on Friday Thread) I'm exaggerating, but a maybe few folks should step back from the keyboard for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I think we should shut this sub forum down and merge with the southeast forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Looks like I picked the wrong time to move here. The things we do for love (and work). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WAwuSK36Gw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I think we should shut this sub forum down and merge with the southeast forum Can we just trade you for Brick?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I think we should shut this sub forum down and merge with the southeast forum In fairness, they get more snow than we do. They may not want us. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.J Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Do not want to leave this... Quepos, Costa Rica. We fly home tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffwx Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Looks to me like the next 10 days will have a few days of cold, with little or no snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Do not want to leave this... Quepos, Costa Rica. We fly home tomorrow. I don't blame you. It sucks here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Silly me...I woke up this morning half thinking the pattern thread would have a few extra pages to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peribonca Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 It's pretty sad when a storm like today's is all rain for everyone! Hard to believe it's Dec 29th and even Garrett County is getting drenched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Silly me...I woke up this morning half thinking the pattern thread would have a few extra pages to it. Look on the bright side. At least now there's no debate on when to start the storm thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I'm just glad we got rid of that awful pattern we were in three weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Look on the bright side. At least now there's no debate on when to start the storm thread. Yup. No one should be disappointed with that bit of good news, and we'll all be happy for the folks a few hundred miles NE of us. Good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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