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Dec 9th Winter Threat


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A lot of frustration in this thread. I was out in the woods with the dog for 2 hours as a cold day with overcast skies told me....feels like winter....looks like winter. Big cold coming, I'm in a good mood...it's coming! (But not tonight/tomorrow)

 

I'm kind of in the same boat as you, Jerry.  Sure, it's only an about 1.5-2" on the ground.  But that along with a temp of 26* makes it seem a bit winter-like.  If we can eek out a little more on top of that, all the better.

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A lot of frustration in this thread. I was out in the woods with the dog for 2 hours as a cold day with overcast skies told me....feels like winter....looks like winter. Big cold coming, I'm in a good mood...it's coming! (But not tonight/tomorrow)

After last winter there shouldn't be, especially inland.

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We'll have to watch that 2nd punch of isentropic lift with a little ML fronto that comes in later tonight for us from W PA....the models have done horrifically with this front running stuff. Euro coming out now has less than 0.05 of qpf north of Baltimore between 12z and 18z today...already busted. That stuff slides south of us but the next round could perhaps give us some little bands of heavier snow if we are lucky.

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We'll have to watch that 2nd punch of isentropic lift with a little ML fronto that comes in later tonight for us from W PA....the models have done horrifically with this front running stuff. Euro coming out now has less than 0.05 of qpf north of Baltimore between 12z and 18z today...already busted. That stuff slides south of us but the next round could perhaps give us some little bands of heavier snow if we are lucky.

We were talking about that earlier. It might not have much push north but sometimes that stronger WAA aloft can fire up snow further north.

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It may not last the warm sector tomorrow down there...though if they have some spots getting 5-8" of snow that should stick around.

But ya gotta give yourself a break, it'll snow, it's still early in the season. Bring back the optimistic Blizz. You may tickle an inch and some glaze, that's a nice wintery appeal. It doesn't take much this time of year.

I don't really see frustration on here from anyone. It's deep winter cold with what looks like no letup in sight. I can't win lol. If I get optimistic I get accused of hype . If I get down on an event I get accused of frustration. Either way it's me FTL
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That's pure snow though.

Ct got absolutely destroyed in that band with 4-5 inches an hour in spots , and 30-38 inches, ema saw nothing like those rates in the 2013 blizzard. Which is why i was sorta like ya impressive storm 2 feet+ of powder (impressive). The firehose storm i thought had more impressive snowfall for *areas* of south shore , i think N plymouth county had 22-24/25 inches of cement in spots. That was a QPF bomb for s shore that i think went unnoticed.

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Ct got absolutely destroyed in that band with 4-5 inches an hour in spots , and 30-38 inches, ema saw nothing like those rates in the 2013 blizzard. Which is why i was sorta like ya impressive storm 2 feet+ of powder (impressive). The firehose storm i thought had more impressive snowfall for *areas* of south shore , i think N plymouth county had 22-24/25 inches of cement in spots. That was a QPF bomb for s shore that i think went unnoticed.

We had some good 3":hr bands for quite a whole

Though. Fine by me.

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What did the nws have for phl this morning?

This is the Philly point forecast matrix...DATE             SUN 12/08/13            MON 12/09/13            TUE 12/10/13EST 3HRLY     04 07 10 13 16 19 22 01 04 07 10 13 16 19 22 01 04 07 10 13 16 19UTC 3HRLY     09 12 15 18 21 00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21 00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21 00MAX/MIN                      34          34          47          31          38TEMP          29 30 31 33 33 34 34 35 38 39 40 45 44 39 37 36 34 32 35 37 36 31DEWPT         20 19 18 20 24 28 30 32 36 38 39 39 38 36 33 30 28 26 25 23 23 22RH            69 63 58 58 69 78 85 89 92 96 96 79 79 89 85 79 78 78 66 56 59 69WIND DIR       N  N NE NE NE  E  E  E  E NE NE SW  W  W  W NW NW NW NW NW  W  WWIND SPD       5  4  4  3  4  4  5  5  4  3  2  5  5  5  8  9  9  8  8  8  8  8CLOUDS        B1 B2 B2 OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV B2 B2 B2 B2 B2 B2 B1 B1POP 12HR                     70         100          90          10          30QPF 12HR                   0.17        0.45        0.24           0        0.03SNOW 12HR                     1           T       00-00                        RAIN                             D  D  D  D  D  L  C                           SLEET                            D                                             SNOW                    C  L  D                                      S  C  C   
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This is the Philly point forecast matrix...DATE             SUN 12/08/13            MON 12/09/13            TUE 12/10/13EST 3HRLY     04 07 10 13 16 19 22 01 04 07 10 13 16 19 22 01 04 07 10 13 16 19UTC 3HRLY     09 12 15 18 21 00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21 00 03 06 09 12 15 18 21 00MAX/MIN                      34          34          47          31          38TEMP          29 30 31 33 33 34 34 35 38 39 40 45 44 39 37 36 34 32 35 37 36 31DEWPT         20 19 18 20 24 28 30 32 36 38 39 39 38 36 33 30 28 26 25 23 23 22RH            69 63 58 58 69 78 85 89 92 96 96 79 79 89 85 79 78 78 66 56 59 69WIND DIR       N  N NE NE NE  E  E  E  E NE NE SW  W  W  W NW NW NW NW NW  W  WWIND SPD       5  4  4  3  4  4  5  5  4  3  2  5  5  5  8  9  9  8  8  8  8  8CLOUDS        B1 B2 B2 OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV OV B2 B2 B2 B2 B2 B2 B1 B1POP 12HR                     70         100          90          10          30QPF 12HR                   0.17        0.45        0.24           0        0.03SNOW 12HR                     1           T       00-00                        RAIN                             D  D  D  D  D  L  C                           SLEET                            D                                             SNOW                    C  L  D                                      S  C  C   

 

 

Lol....sometimes that WAA/ML fronto can totally fool the models. (and forecasters too)

 

 

Not always easy to forecast these.

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