Chicago Storm Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 .7 final call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 3 to 5 inch high ratio long duration...a little blowy drifty due to the fluffiness of the flakes.... I think ground temps already being near freezing will help things start sticking right from onset.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 yeah, ground temps can def be crossed off the potential issue list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 1-2" of sleet and slush for Toronto followed by plain rain followed by a flash freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 1-2" of sleet and slush for Toronto followed by plain rain followed by a flash freeze. Sounds about right...although I think the 1-2" could be actual snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Looks very moisture starved on the NW side of the low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Looks very moisture starved on the NW side of the low. as currently modeled yep...12z GFS shows some signs of a more robust wave over the moutain southwest....deeper at 850, more phase, etc. wait and see kind of scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Eastern IA/southern WI this run with best snows further NW with inverted trof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This is the best GFS run so far for Iowa. I would be very happy with a widespread 2-4 inches, even if it's just long duration light to moderate snow. So far this season I've had four accumulating snow events, including brief heavy snow, but all of them were less than one inch so the open areas began melting almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Eastern IA/southern WI this run with best snows further NW with inverted trof. yep, that feature doesn't look to be going anywhere...probably a non-event for IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Pretty early in the season for a fluff storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Would never have bet in a million that chistorm would be the thread starter. 2-3" first call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 yep, that feature doesn't look to be going anywhere...probably a non-event for IL Lol I def wouldn't say that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 12z GEM also best DBQ-MSN but sfc low is down near Lexington, KY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 12z GEM also best DBQ-MSN but sfc low is down near Lexington, KY yeah, fairly week reflection, but still boasting a 1045 HP in the rockies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 As mentioned in the other storm thread, one of the concerns with this for folks near/south of the Ohio River is that it could be the next round of significant ice. Still a lot to figure out and possible that some areas get above freezing but the damage may be done by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Rough idea of the sleet/freezing rain potential through 12z Monday based on the 12z GFS. Pretty sure these maps don't assume any melting/runoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baum Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 .7 final call Looks like everyone is in mid-winter form... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 12Z Euro on board for a WWA event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 12z Euro is wetter here. .25" liquid at DPA/ARR/ORD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 hi baum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 12Z Euro on board for a WWA event What does it show my way? Thanks! Not a very moisture laden storm, so overall I dont expect any large accumulations of snowfall or any widespread heavy rainfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Qpf isn't impressive at this point, but the fact that there's a stotm consistently showing up is a good sign. As long as we get some snow for the impending arctic blast ill be happy...in the unlikely event we get none, I may have to visit the complaint thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 12z Euro is wetter here. .25" liquid at DPA/ARR/ORD not too shabby with a decent ratio for a season starter.... and @snowstorms asking about the 12Z euro....it roughly showed 2 to 4 inches in toronto....pending ratios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 not too shabby with a decent ratio for a season starter.... and @snowstorms asking about the 12Z euro....it roughly showed 2 to 4 inches in toronto....pending ratios Good enough i suppose. Yeah temperatures are marginal, so anything is possible at this point in time. If the pattern wasn't so progressive it could have dug deeper and gathered more moisture but again, its still 100+ hours out so anything is possible. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I don't like the WAA being depicted...we're going to be dealing with precip type issues if it's underdone at all. At least there's not a lot on the line given meager qpf at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickSumner Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 NWS in Louisville worried about significant ice storm in there county warning area with this second event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 If there can be a few inches of snow put down with this event the bigger story will become the coldest temps likely since the winter of 2010-2011 in northern IL with the Arctic shot behind it. 850 mb temps approaching or below -20c by early Tues with snow on the ground would likely result in areas away from downtown Chicago well below zero assuming there are no cloud cover issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I like the idea that most should cash in on a decent 1-3/2-4" type snow, as mentioned by RCNYILWX this snowfall will help usher in the Arctic blast. The bigger story could potentially be further south though where they do look to cash in on several inches over the duration of the next few events. Incredibly cold temperatures being shown for the Ozarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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