clueless Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 And to be clear....I have been on the sleet train since the get go for my bushes I don't pay for the Euro so my weenie eyes can only zero in on snow. The pink stuff is not thrilling. Your instinct on this being the year of the frozen may pan out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 People were positive it would NO us again at 0z, but it obviously didn't. If nothing else, I love that the doomsdayers got a 12-hour reprieve. Kind of like the end-of-the-world folks who keep pushing back their date for Armageddon. Very poetic. Very true. I don't think expectations are high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Leesburg, it was faster like the gfs. And also had the same look at h5 to the north so the high was held better. The most important shift to me was speeding up the precip. The cold high is gonna keep wobbling run to run for sure. Nowcasting should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Leesburg, it was faster like the gfs. And also had the same look at h5 to the north so the high was held better. The most important shift to me was speeding up the precip. The cold high is gonna keep wobbling run to run for sure. Nowcasting should be fun. So big bust potential? Edit: Seems to be the case for very event now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Mark my words, by Friday, the models will "see" the true strength of the cold air and this storm will be rockin' like February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 They keep showing images of Denver on TV. Jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Or not. it's rare to see such confidence in your forecasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Or not. The problem is that this isn't a situation where we can hope that something is being modeled wrong and that we are going to stay snow and get a really nice surprise event. The best we can hope for is some snow, followed by a mix that will be washed away by rain. Sure, a longer period of frozen will be fun to track, but come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This pattern (or perhaps just the potential results of the pattern) reminds me a lot of my freshman year in college ('93-'94) up in central PA. We had a bunch of medium-sized events that I think were primarily frozen or cold rain down here. Being 150-175 miles or so north meant that we cashed in big time. That was a great winter up in that neck of the woods. Damn...I just checked and we got somewhere on the order of 80" that winter. And then followed it up with much the same two years later. What an awesome couple years to be there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. Haterz gonna hate. This pattern (or perhaps just the potential results of the pattern) reminds me a lot of my freshman year in college ('93-'94) up in central PA. We had a bunch of medium-sized events that I think were primarily frozen or cold rain down here. Being 150-175 miles or so north meant that we cashed in big time. That was a great winter up in that neck of the woods. Damn...I just checked and we got somewhere on the order of 80" that winter. And then followed it up with much the same two years later. What an awesome couple years to be there! On the other hand, my years at PSU included 99-00, 00-01 and 01-02. I did get 02-03, which was pretty awesome, but the first 3 years sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This pattern (or perhaps just the potential results of the pattern) reminds me a lot of my freshman year in college ('93-'94) up in central PA. We had a bunch of medium-sized events that I think were primarily frozen or cold rain down here. Being 150-175 miles or so north meant that we cashed in big time. That was a great winter up in that neck of the woods. Damn...I just checked and we got somewhere on the order of 80" that winter. And then followed it up with much the same two years later. What an awesome couple years to be there! and the bitter cold that came with those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The problem is that this isn't a situation where we can hope that something is being modeled wrong and that we are going to stay snow and get a really nice surprise event. The best we can hope for is some snow, followed by a mix that will be washed away by rain. Sure, a longer period of frozen will be fun to track, but come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. True. You and I may have seen snow last year. But DCA and points east have not. I would think an inch of slush on the ground would be very cathartic for those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The problem is that this isn't a situation where we can hope that something is being modeled wrong and that we are going to stay snow and get a really nice surprise event. The best we can hope for is some snow, followed by a mix that will be washed away by rain. Sure, a longer period of frozen will be fun to track, but come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. As long as I can see a few inches of snow with glaze before the rain wipes it away, I will consider it a victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The problem is that this isn't a situation where we can hope that something is being modeled wrong and that we are going to stay snow and get a really nice surprise event. The best we can hope for is some snow, followed by a mix that will be washed away by rain. Sure, a longer period of frozen will be fun to track, but come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. Thanks Deb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The problem is that this isn't a situation where we can hope that something is being modeled wrong and that we are going to stay snow and get a really nice surprise event. The best we can hope for is some snow, followed by a mix that will be washed away by rain. Sure, a longer period of frozen will be fun to track, but come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. What's the matter...you worried Ponder is gonna start on Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Haterz gonna hate. On the other hand, my years at PSU included 99-00, 00-01 and 01-02. I did get 02-03, which was pretty awesome, but the first 3 years sucked. I was at Bucknell. 94-95 was wedged in between the two big years, and that was a terrible winter. I remember one driving nighttime rainstorm in mid-January during my fraternity hell week. It was miserable being out in that, but given the crap we had to endure, I was glad it was mild! 96-97 wasn't much to write home about, either. If I remember, it was fairly similar to a standard DC winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The problem is that this isn't a situation where we can hope that something is being modeled wrong and that we are going to stay snow and get a really nice surprise event. The best we can hope for is some snow, followed by a mix that will be washed away by rain. Sure, a longer period of frozen will be fun to track, but come Monday morning we are going to have a brown, soggy ground to look at. Thanks, Wes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 What's the matter...you worried Ponder is gonna start on Sunday? Don't start any sh*t Mitch! We go for the beltway sweep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 What's the matter...you worried Ponder is gonna start on Sunday? He better. Draft picks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 He better. Draft picks! Nah, a win over the skins and crows goes a long way around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Was the euro a burp or did it just bring the precip in faster and hold the cold longer....more of an adjustment...or did it completely change its solution? I don't know that answerMore GFSesque. It could be right. It didn't look as amazing to me as it was described here anyway. But seriously I swear this place is on a loop of commentary regardless of people acting like they learn year to year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 More GFSesque. It could be right. It didn't look as amazing to me as it was described here anyway. But seriously I swear this place is on a loop of commentary regardless of people acting like they learn year to year. This storm was never amazing. The shift was a big net positive in a meager situation and warranted some excitement. You staying up for the 12z suite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 More GFSesque. It could be right. It didn't look as amazing to me as it was described here anyway. But seriously I swear this place is on a loop of commentary regardless of people acting like they learn year to year. Weather's gonna do what the weather's gonna do. The models don't control it, so you never know what's gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This storm was never amazing. The shift was a big net positive in a meager situation and warranted some excitement. You staying up for the 12z suite? I know.. This is where the western contingent and some others are like "whiten my ground and it's a huge win." I'm kinda tired may pass on 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Weather's gonna do what the weather's gonna do. The models don't control it, so you never know what's gonna happen.True I just feel like the Euro often goes from dr no to a day close in where it gives hope then it takes it back away. I guess we will see. Pretty much anything less than 2" is a fail in my book even in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Sigh.... my mom just called me, so she listens to ESPN 980 and apparently there is a guy name Kevin Sheehan who does long range forecasting... and he predicted a white Christmas and a BIG storm January 3rd. SO obviously my mother calls me freaking out. x infinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Pretty much anything less than 2" is a fail in my book even in October. Wow, your Phail Journal is probably as thick as the yellow pages in the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I know.. This is where the western contingent and some others are like "whiten my ground and it's a huge win." I'm kinda tired may pass on 12z. If I see snow falling it's a huge win. Did you forget where we live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Sigh.... my mom just called me, so she listens to ESPN 980 and apparently there is a guy name Kevin Sheehan who does long range forecasting... and he predicted a white Christmas and a BIG storm January 3rd. SO obviously my mother calls me freaking out. x infinity Heh. Sheehan doesn't do long-range forecasting, he's a sports guy talk show host. But he is also a bit of a hobbyist like many of us, and spends more time looking at models than normal humans. Kornheiser knows that and puts him on every so often to jab him about the weather, I would guess that bit grew out of a query what the holidays might hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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