astarck Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 My forecast high is going up about a degree an hour on NWS at this point. We were barely supposed to break freezing and now it's a race to see if we can hit 42. This has been a rough couple of days for LWX and temperature forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We could have highs in the 60's for a couple days centered around the 20-21st. I'm surprised Ian isn't chain posting about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 We could have highs in the 60's for a couple days centered around the 20-21st. I'm surprised Ian isn't chain posting about this.I hadn't looked. I'll start a thread where we can all weenie out over if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We could have highs in the 60's for a couple days centered around the 20-21st. I'm surprised Ian isn't chain posting about this. YES! I have 20+ people coming to my house on the 21st so having warm temps would be great so people don't have to spend all the time inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 YES! I have 20+ people coming to my house on the 21st so having warm temps would be great so people don't have to spend all the time inside. People with too much snow problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 People with too much snow problems Get over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Get over it I hope your awesome pool is doing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I hope your awesome pool is doing ok. Looked okay yesterday, very pretty with all that snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I was surprised at the lack of melting in my neighborhood. Pretty much nothing on the ground at Andrews this afternoon. 25-30 miles makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 35/15 Gonna be frikin cold tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm passing through lucketts and my car therm says 25...jyo says 37...5 mile diff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I was surprised at the lack of melting in my neighborhood. Pretty much nothing on the ground at Andrews this afternoon. 25-30 miles makes a big difference. Good to hear, I was worried about the status of my snowpack. One benefit of the really crappy ratio snows we get is that it is tougher to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'm passing through lucketts and my car therm says 25...jyo says 37...5 mile diff your car therm is way off. Most stations around there are still in the low-mid 30s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 your car therm is way off. Most stations around there are still in the low-mid 30s. Was weird it ended up at 32 at the house...it was a weird drop...it has been pretty reliable usually running 2 degrees warm...water on side of the road was frozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notvirga! Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Radiational cooling can be stark. I work about a mile from KOV, Winchester. My car thermometer is usually right with a margin of error of maybe one degree, compared with the airport. Those in Frederick co will know where I am talking about, but driving from Winchester out into the rural western part of the county (via cedar creek grade), you don't have to drive but a few miles to see a dramatic drop in temperatures....especially with snow cover. It's common to see a drop of 5-10 degrees. I get to work about sunrise, so I also observe some of the lowest temperature readings in the morning. Today, with 6-8 inches of snow pack, the lowest reading I saw was 10 degrees, on barley lane It was 18 when I drove by the airport at 7 am. It was already 17 degrees, about an hour ago; it will be interesting to see how low it is tomorrow morning. I would think 5-10 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Big temp spreads all over the area tonight. I've dropped to 22 already, with a forecast low of 20 tonight from LWX. Some weather stations around me are still reporting low 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Radiational cooling can be stark. I work about a mile from KOV, Winchester. My car thermometer is usually right with a margin of error of maybe one degree, compared with the airport. Those in Frederick co will know where I am talking about, but driving from Winchester out into the rural western part of the county (via cedar creek grade), you don't have to drive but a few miles to see a dramatic drop in temperatures....especially with snow cover. It's common to see a drop of 5-10 degrees. I get to work about sunrise, so I also observe some of the lowest temperature readings in the morning. Today, with 6-8 inches of snow pack, the lowest reading I saw was 10 degrees, on barley lane It was 18 when I drove by the airport at 7 am. It was already 17 degrees, about an hour ago; it will be interesting to see how low it is tomorrow morning. I would think 5-10 degrees. Good to see you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Good to hear, I was worried about the status of my snowpack. One benefit of the really crappy ratio snows we get is that it is tougher to get rid of. Some of the south-facing lawns (especially those that are sloped) were pretty bare, but my front lawn, which faces ENE, looked little different than when the sun went down last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Read something about the dew point having a big effect on snow melt. It's proven to be true in my experience. Read it on here. The short version was a low dew point caused rapid evaporation of any melting snow and created a cool layer right over the snow that kept melting rates very low. Seems like a sound rationale. Certainly seems to hold true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notvirga! Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Read something about the dew point having a big effect on snow melt. It's proven to be true in my experience. Read it on here. The short version was a low dew point caused rapid evaporation of any melting snow and created a cool layer right over the snow that kept melting rates very low. Seems like a sound rationale. Certainly seems to hold true. I agree. 37 degrees today----I was surprised to see we still have a decent snow pack. Living in the woods, in front of a ridge helps as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Even here, a 20 minute Metro ride to Dupont Circle, the snow pack has held on fine. As with others, in shaded spots, it more or less looks like late yesterday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdhokie Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 We never made it to the forecast low last night and I'm not sure about tonight, most central MD stations have leveled off around 26-27. Yesterday, tonight was forecast to be 20. Tomorrow night is 18, doubt we hit that. We cant even do cold right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Down to 17 here overnight, currently at 23*. Car door was a biotch to open this morning and getting the wipers unfrozen. Love the winter OTOH, I ran into Stu Ostro today, former OCM at TWC, talked to him for about 10 mins,. he now does the forecasting for where the field mets go, and for Mike Seidel it was between Roanoke or Leesburg, he is glad he decided to send him to Leesburg. I said whatever you do, keep on sending Seidel here, he arrives and it snows, Keep the anti snow guy (Cantore) in Baltimore like this past event Very cool guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Down to 17 here overnight, currently at 23*. Car door was a biotch to open this morning and getting the wipers unfrozen. Love the winter OTOH, I ran into Stu Ostro today, former OCM at TWC, talked to him for about 10 mins,. he now does the forecasting for where the field mets go, and for Mike Seidel it was between Roanoke or Leesburg, he is glad he decided to send him to Leesburg. I said whatever you do, keep on sending Seidel here, he arrives and it snows, Keep the anti snow guy (Cantore) in Baltimore like this past event Very cool guy. Where'd you run into him at? He was always clearly one of the most prepared/professional mets at TWC. Did he ever serve as an OCM? I thought he was always one of the experts they called on for special events and for their extreme event specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Where'd you run into him at? He was always clearly one of the most prepared/professional mets at TWC. Did he ever serve as an OCM? I thought he was always one of the experts they called on for special events and for their extreme event specials. yeah, when he first started he was an OCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Where'd you run into him at? He was always clearly one of the most prepared/professional mets at TWC. Did he ever serve as an OCM? I thought he was always one of the experts they called on for special events and for their extreme event specials. I would say back in the mid 90's he was an OCM on occasion. Im sure I have a VHS tape of him on air somewhere here. I ran into him at the airport today. i saw his face and I knew who he was, but wasnt 100%sure. Then he turned and I saw TWC patch on his jacket and that solidified it for me on who it was. Really nice guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Looking at radar I am wondering about getting something overnight, dusting maybe a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Even here, a 20 minute Metro ride to Dupont Circle, the snow pack has held on fine. As with others, in shaded spots, it more or less looks like late yesterday afternoon. My condo complex is long and thin.. one set of windows looks west and the other east. The east side still has 80% cover (well, cover with grass blades and holes). Not much change today. Sunny spots are generally snow free except for little shoveled piles though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 HRRR appears to have gone for the crackpipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 interestingly it breaks it down the next few hours, presumably as the front passes and winds pick up.. it must be overdoing snowcover impacts or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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