dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Not sure if it's talked about, but getting a bit concerned for ice up here this weekend. Very good possibility as we sit on the the edge of the gradient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxjim207 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -23F this morning in Lyndonville Vermont down in the valley. At the Airport on the hill it was -19F. Island Pond coldest location in lower 48 at -32F this morning! Impressive! I must say this is the coldest December I can remember in years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 NOUS41 KCAR 171336 PNSCAR PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CARIBOU ME 835 AM EST TUE DEC 17 2013 ...LATEST LOW TEMPERATURE REPORTS... LOCATION TEMP TIME/DATE LAT/LON BIG BLACK RIVER -32 0730 AM 12/17 46.89N/69.75W NINE-MILE BRIDGE -26 0800 AM 12/17 46.70N/69.72W 4 ENE BAKER LAKE -26 0715 AM 12/17 46.30N/69.85W VAN BUREN -24 0730 AM 12/17 47.17N/67.94W 1 E MILFORD -22 0731 AM 12/17 44.95N/68.61W HOULTON INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT -19 0653 AM 12/17 46.12N/67.79W 2 SSW LILY BAY -18 0650 AM 12/17 45.56N/69.57W PRESQUE ISLE AIRPORT -18 0615 AM 12/17 46.69N/68.04W DICKEY -18 0700 AM 12/17 47.11N/69.09W DOVER-FOXCROFT -17 0700 AM 12/17 45.19N/69.18W 4 E NEW SWEDEN -17 0627 AM 12/17 46.96N/68.03W MACHIAS WWTP -16 0700 AM 12/17 44.72N/67.45W 1 NE CARIBOU -16 0737 AM 12/17 46.87N/68.01W CARIBOU -15 0654 AM 12/17 46.87N/68.01W LILLE -15 0700 AM 12/17 47.28N/68.11W 6 NNW MILLINOCKET -15 0825 AM 12/17 45.74N/68.73W BANGOR INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT -15 0653 AM 12/17 44.80N/68.82W 2 ENE SANGERVILLE -14 0330 AM 12/17 45.18N/69.32W 3 NW MONTICELLO -14 0645 AM 12/17 46.34N/67.89W 1 SW FORT KENT -13 0703 AM 12/17 47.24N/68.61W SAINT ZACHARIE -13 0245 AM 12/17 46.09N/70.29W MILLINOCKET WWTP -13 0657 AM 12/17 45.64N/68.67W 2 W SAINT AGATHA -13 0730 AM 12/17 47.25N/68.35W 5 SSE CARIBOU -13 0746 AM 12/17 46.78N/67.99W 1 NW PRESQUE ISLE -13 0707 AM 12/17 46.70N/68.03W 1 NW BANGOR -12 0720 AM 12/17 44.82N/68.79W 1 SSW ASHLAND -12 0700 AM 12/17 46.60N/68.41W 2 ESE PRINCETON -12 0658 AM 12/17 45.21N/67.54W 4 SSE CLIFTON -12 0655 AM 12/17 44.76N/68.49W 5 SE GRAND ISLE -11 0631 AM 12/17 47.24N/68.10W FRENCHVILLE AIRPORT -11 0653 AM 12/17 47.28N/68.31W 5 S CALAIS -11 0719 AM 12/17 45.11N/67.28W 1 NW PRESQUE ISLE -11 0700 AM 12/17 46.70N/68.03W 1 SSE FORT KENT -11 0722 AM 12/17 47.25N/68.58W 2 SW BREWER -11 0657 AM 12/17 44.77N/68.78W MADAWASKA -10 0559 AM 12/17 47.35N/68.33W HANCOCK 2.5 SE -10 0700 AM 12/17 44.50N/68.22W ELLSWORTH -10 0640 AM 12/17 44.54N/68.42W 2 E CLIFTON -10 0520 AM 12/17 44.82N/68.47W MILLINOCKET MUNICIPAL AIRPORT -10 0653 AM 12/17 45.65N/68.69W 2 NW ADDISON -9 0658 AM 12/17 45.12N/67.50W MACHIAS -9 0725 AM 12/17 44.71N/67.46W WOODLAND (BAILEYVILLE) -8 0700 AM 12/17 45.16N/67.40W 2 E SURRY -8 0548 AM 12/17 44.49N/68.46W TOPSFIELD -8 0700 AM 12/17 45.43N/67.72W GREENVILLE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT A -8 0356 AM 12/17 45.46N/69.55W BAR HARBOR AIRPORT -8 0615 AM 12/17 44.45N/68.36W 1 SW EAST MACHIAS -8 0640 AM 12/17 44.72N/67.40W 4 S BLUE HILL -8 0712 AM 12/17 44.36N/68.58W COOPER -8 0737 AM 12/17 44.95N/67.44W 1 W LITTLETON -7 0800 AM 12/17 46.23N/67.88W BLUE HILL -7 0637 AM 12/17 44.41N/68.57W WESLEY -6 0600 AM 12/17 44.95N/67.67W EAST SANGERVILLE -5 0700 AM 12/17 45.14N/69.28W BROOKLIN -5 0707 AM 12/17 44.27N/68.57W SEDGWICK RIDGE -4 0448 AM 12/17 44.36N/68.61W 3 W BAR HARBOR -4 0558 AM 12/17 44.38N/68.26W 1 SW SURRY -4 0537 AM 12/17 44.49N/68.51W 1 SE PERRY -3 0700 AM 12/17 44.96N/67.06W 9 SSW WHITING -2 0524 AM 12/17 44.66N/67.21W 2 W BAR HARBOR -2 0500 AM 12/17 44.38N/68.26W 3 ESE BROOKLIN -2 0718 AM 12/17 44.24N/68.53W 2 W CRANBERRY ISLES -1 0642 AM 12/17 44.25N/68.29W 7 WNW BROOKSVILLE 0 0654 AM 12/17 44.39N/68.80W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The car thermometer found a -27F in on the border between Shoreham & Whiting, VT. That car thermometer's been pretty accurate against a few other digital thermometers over the past few years, so I trust that the temperature was accurate. There are a couple of hollows in the lower Champlain valley where cold air draining off the Green Mountains collects and the temperature can really plummet. Lake Champlain isn't wide at all down here (the Connecticut River is wider in many places), so the lake effect is minimal and vanishes completely once you get a mile from the lake. So as others have noted, pretty ridiculously cold for December! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I guess I was the garden of the north country with a balmy low of -3F up on my hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Co-worker had -28° at her house in Elmore. Looks like MPV bottomed out at -20°, which looks like a new record low for the date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -8 ended up being the low Up to 3F now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 My car didn't handle the cold very well but seems to be ok now. Clouds are thickening ahead of some light snow forecast for the afternoon. It is a balmy 7F now or so out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Very good possibility as we sit on the the edge of the gradient Surprised it's not getting more play. Everyone with low temp fetishes today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Surprised it's not getting more play. Everyone with low temp fetishes today. I mentioned the icy possibility in the pattern thread I think, but it probably got buried snow retention concerns. We're probably due for a good icing event up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I mentioned the icy possibility in the pattern thread I think, but it probably got buried snow retention concerns. We're probably due for a good icing event up here. This could be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This could be bad. The 12z Euro yesterday was a little concerning, with 850 warmth surging to the mountains and places like CON staying around 32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Light snow already falling here in Hanover, NH. That was quick. Surprised it's not getting more play. Everyone with low temp fetishes today. One day at a time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Light snow has just begun here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This could be bad. 1998 was real bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Surprised it's not getting more play. Everyone with low temp fetishes today. I think the focus has been with the clipper, But this weekend has been in the headlights, I for one am not a huge fan of ice after seeing the destruction here in the 1998 ice storm, What a very eerie sound at night with trees snapping and crashing and transformer blowing up left and right with blue flashes lighting up the sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Surprised it's not getting more play. Everyone with low temp fetishes today.I've been watching it plenty, but I'm still afraid of the warm side. I'd like to see a stronger push of low level cold, but we've got a little time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 12z GFS crude maps seem to keep us at 32F or lower throughout the weekend mess...warmest it gets is actually after the precip moves through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grambo Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I take it my trip to Montreal from Grand Isle, VT is looking to be cancelled this Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hmm, 12z GFS backwards trajectories run from 18z Sunday. Red line ends at 500 m over AUG, and blue line ends at 2000 m over AUG. Pretty classic points of origin for an icy environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hmm, 12z GFS backwards trajectories run from 18z Sunday. Red line ends at 500 m over AUG, and blue line ends at 2000 m over AUG. Pretty classic points of origin for an icy environment. GFS_backtrajectories_17Dec12Zrun.png Starting to have concerns for this, 12z Euro Ensembles looked quite icy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I took this one last night with the moon shining on the snow cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Starting to have concerns for this, 12z Euro Ensembles looked quite icy The Euro is pretty ridiculous for the temps. Keeps much of our CWA below freezing 18z Sunday, but at H8 we're talking +12 at PSM, and +4 from BML to AUG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 That trajectory map is pretty classic though. The air that ends at 2000 m (the warm nose) stays on the surface (read: Gulf Stream) for days before rapidly being forced up and over the cold dome. Conversely, the cold air does a nice anticylonic loop before draining down the eastern slopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Well, it's been a while since there's been a widespread icing event--around here anyway. I suppose we're due. I've already started scaring the bejesus out of my coworkers who quiver at the mention of ZR in the forecast. Staying quite tuned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The Euro is pretty ridiculous for the temps. Keeps much of our CWA below freezing 18z Sunday, but at H8 we're talking +12 at PSM, and +4 from BML to AUG. Yikes, Being this far out things can change, But that is a pretty decent high north of us, Models tend to underplay the CAD, I have not even looked at qpf potential yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 That trajectory map is pretty classic though. The air that ends at 2000 m (the warm nose) stays on the surface (read: Gulf Stream) for days before rapidly being forced up and over the cold dome. Conversely, the cold air does a nice anticylonic loop before draining down the eastern slopes.If I have any shot that's how I'll need my low level CAA...straight from the NE from that anticyclonic loop. ecens look icy, but it appeared to me they trended warmer from 00Z. I have a feeling this will be a fail here, but it looks nasty up in your northern zones. There's a lot of frigid air locked up in QB so I won't give up yet. Hopefully that sfc ridge axis from the northern plains high continues to strengthen with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hmm, 12z GFS backwards trajectories run from 18z Sunday. Red line ends at 500 m over AUG, and blue line ends at 2000 m over AUG. Pretty classic points of origin for an icy environment. GFS_backtrajectories_17Dec12Zrun.png So I know a good deal about weather and the maps posted around here....but what is that showing me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yikes, Being this far out things can change, But that is a pretty decent high north of us, Models tend to underplay the CAD, I have not even looked at qpf potential yet I haven't looked, but I'm going to hazard a guess that with +18 C H8 temps down across BOX's CWA it will be a plenty juicy air mass for this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Good burst of snow just moved through...looks like close to an inch of fluff or white air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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