mreaves Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -9 HIE and -12 Pittsburg. Not too far to go for -20.SLK and MSS both at -17 already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Actually we can't just choose to split a county, we have to go through a process to make it official and that county is then always split. So it adds to the number of zones, which effects a number of products. So it's not something we do lightly. All of our northern counties are split (Coos, Grafton, Carroll, Oxford, Franklin, Somerset (which is split three ways actually with CAR taking the top)). Then we've also split a coastal zone from all our coastal counties (except for parts of the Midcoast). See how confusing this gets already? Ha We have issues all over the place though. The "tail" in Cumberland county that sticks into Oxford. They get conditions the rest of the county doesn't see all the time, and can be surrounded by headlines in Oxford on three sides! Merrimack is another big problem county because the NW half to third is mostly above 800 feet. Big difference from the SE part. Here is what it looks like (counties in black, zone splits in white, CWAs in red). CWA.jpg Coastal part of the counties that head inland to the coastal plain, And the Foothill county's that are south into the coastal plain, I am guessing there can be quite a difference in precip type and totals for those, With some having some elevation, That has to be a tough task at times making a call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Coastal part of the counties that head inland to the coastal plain, And the Foothill county's that are south into the coastal plain, I am guessing there can be quite a difference in precip type and totals for those, With some having some elevation, That has to be a tough task at times making a call It's a challenge. I mean you have quite a difference in terrain from southern Oxford/Franklin to Somerset. Of even within a county like Strafford (NH). The SE half is coastal plain but the NW half has some near 1000 foot elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 It's a challenge. I mean you have quite a difference in terrain from southern Oxford/Franklin to Somerset. Of even within a county like Strafford (NH). The SE half is coastal plain but the NW half has some near 1000 foot elevation. I am sure it comes up often in some of these, And the NH one i would say is a real good example where the northern part could have warning criteria precip but the southenrn part has advisory but they would have to be included in the warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroCu Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -22F in Canaan, Vermont at 1am and -18F at Island Pond, VT. Just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroCu Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Just an incredible -29F at Canaan, VT at 4 am. -7F at BTV. BTV never got below 8F last December. This year? 6 straight days with a min temp below 8F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -19F right now. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroCu Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 http://famtest.nwcg.gov/roman/cgi-bin/meso_base.cgi?stn=ISPV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 http://famtest.nwcg.gov/roman/cgi-bin/meso_base.cgi?stn=ISPV1 That's nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -6.3F so far. Plus snow is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -15F at both SFM and IZG. I saw -14F on the car thermo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -14 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I was curious so I called Grey Maine. Spoke to a nice female met. She said that they can break up some counties but not others. For instance they can break up Grafton county and issue for just the northern or southern half. They can't do it for Carroll county. They know its a problem in NH. Out west the counties are more square but we have the funky shapes which lead to misleading advisories sometimes. That's right--I forgot they split Grafton sometimes! I should've remembered that once since where I live borders Grafton and I work in Grafton Co., lol. C-c-c-c-c-c-cold one. -17F this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 No surprises here at- 4f. Gorham and new Gloucester reporting- 17. Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Morrisville-Stowe Airport down to -22F now. Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yeah, I'd say so. -14F down here in Orwell. Pretty raw for mid-December. Pond ice is just fabulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -32F at Island Pond. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/gmap.php?map=btv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -6.8 low -6.5/-13 currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Morrisville-Stowe Airport down to -22F now. Impressive. Get out the pot of boiling water and throw it into the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Actually we can't just choose to split a county, we have to go through a process to make it official and that county is then always split. So it adds to the number of zones, which effects a number of products. So it's not something we do lightly. All of our northern counties are split (Coos, Grafton, Carroll, Oxford, Franklin, Somerset (which is split three ways actually with CAR taking the top)). Then we've also split a coastal zone from all our coastal counties (except for parts of the Midcoast). See how confusing this gets already? Ha We have issues all over the place though. The "tail" in Cumberland county that sticks into Oxford. They get conditions the rest of the county doesn't see all the time, and can be surrounded by headlines in Oxford on three sides! Merrimack is another big problem county because the NW half to third is mostly above 800 feet. Big difference from the SE part. Here is what it looks like (counties in black, zone splits in white, CWAs in red). CWA.jpg Cool map. Yeah the best thing BTV did was split the western slopes from the Champlain Valley in Franklin/Chittenden/Addison/Rutland counties. I remember when that happened though I dont' think I lived up here yet? Probably 2000-2005, somewhere in those years. I can't even imagine how that must've been to issue advisories/warnings when those counties weren't split...I mean it could literally snow 36" on the upslope east side of Chittenden/Franklin/Addison counties (now zones 16, 17, 18), while its partly sunny on the west side along the lakeshore (zones 2, 5, 9). I don't know how you would manage that in a one-county zone forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Get out the pot of boiling water and throw it into the air Approaching -30F dew points, lol. Remember this one when its 80/72 next summer and we are sitting and sweating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroCu Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -33 at Island Pond now. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Approaching -30F dew points, lol. Remember this one when its 80/72 next summer and we are sitting and sweating. MVL.JPG hahah nice. I have felt as cold as -15 but this morning we are at -9 or so. I Stepped outside and it was definitely a good "nostril freezer". I remember -15 is about where the pain really begins to kick in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -18F here. the birds are looking a little extra fluffy this morning pretty impressive run of below zero's, more than all of last year it feels like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MainePhotog Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -8°F for the low this morning. Current Temp/Dew: -6.0°F/-7.6°F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j24vt Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -25 on the car thermometer when I left the house this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hit -9.1F. CON reached -11F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Approaching -30F dew points, lol. Remember this one when its 80/72 next summer and we are sitting and sweating. MVL.JPG It is not the cold,it is the lack of humidity. We had about -14 at the house this morning. I saw -22 in Danville on the drive in to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Not sure if it's talked about, but getting a bit concerned for ice up here this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 -13F here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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