December Discussion Thread

[REDMK6GLI]

Ummm...

The 18z GFS has an incredibly bizarre event from D7-9; insane amount of QPF that transitions from torrential rains to blindingly heavy snow... literally would be 4-5" of QPF and probably 1-2 feet of snow at the end... (or more!)

Been showing a long duration event at this time period. Although this would be a bit far fetched unless the GOM literally goes all in. This period next week has some good potential

[WintersGrasp]

Everyone, what are some epic bands of snow that you remember ? For me, 12/30/2000. We were forecasted to receive 6-12" and start at around daybreak. I woke up at around 3am to RIPPING HEAVY snow, getting progressively heavy and blinding. We wound up with 18", most of it falling in 4-5 hours

[Rjay]

Everyone, what are some epic bands of snow that you remember ? For me, 12/30/2000. We were forecasted to receive 6-12" and start at around daybreak. I woke up at around 3am to RIPPING HEAVY snow, getting progressively heavy and blinding. We wound up with 18", most of it falling in 4-5 hours

In my area

1. 12/19/09

2. 1/26-27/11

honorable mentions : there's a 15 min stretch in 2/8/13 storm near the end which was insane (looked like a squall line on radar. Anyone up late remembers that one)

And

blizzard of 96' late afternoon early evening really ripped

[Stormlover74]

In my area

1. 12/19/09

2. 1/26-27/11

honorable mentions : there's a 15 min stretch in 2/8/13 storm near the end which was insane (looked like a squall line on radar. Anyone up late remembers that one)

And

blizzard of 96' late afternoon early evening really ripped

Yeah I stayed up late for that. Didn't last long but picked up like an inch in 15 minutes.

One of my faves and perhaps its because I was out during it was 1/22/05. Was at a basketball game in philly. Came out and there was 6" on the ground. Was blinding snow all the way up the turnpike.

[BxEngine]

The morning hours in the 96 blizzard and late evening of the Boxing Day storm. They probably werent the hardest its ever snowed, but it was the most impressive combo of snow and wind ive ever seen.

I did see about 5" of pure fluff fall in alittle over an hour in Lake Placid once...visibility was less than 50' at times.

[Radders]

Yeah I stayed up late for that. Didn't last long but picked up like an inch in 15 minutes.

One of my faves and perhaps its because I was out during it was 1/22/05. Was at a basketball game in philly. Came out and there was 6" on the ground. Was blinding snow all the way up the turnpike.

 

Out of all the snow storms there have been over the last 10 years, I am most gutted I missed Jan 2005..  I was in Montana BIg Sky skiing and it was in the 40s there.  I remember watching the news and they were showing how the east coast was expecting a blizzard and I was so jealous to be missing it.  I remember that storm being a clipper on steroids, that blew up in to a miller B.. I hope we see a cold storm like that again some time soon.  It was an awesome set up and such a cold storm.

[Storm At Sea]

That was an NJ special. Extreme cutoff west to east. Most did not believe my reports of 16 in. in N Middlesex County. I was in high school.

Everyone, what are some epic bands of snow that you remember ? For me, 12/30/2000. We were forecasted to receive 6-12" and start at around daybreak. I woke up at around 3am to RIPPING HEAVY snow, getting progressively heavy and blinding. We wound up with 18", most of it falling in 4-5 hours

[Stormlover74]

That was an NJ special. Extreme cutoff west to east. Most did not believe my reports of 16 in. in N Middlesex County. I was in high school.

Yeah amazing cutoff sw of philly. Parts of nw nj had 2 feet in about 10 hours

[Stormlover74]

Out of all the snow storms there have been over the last 10 years, I am most gutted I missed Jan 2005.. I was in Montana BIg Sky skiing and it was in the 40s there. I remember watching the news and they were showing how the east coast was expecting a blizzard and I was so jealous to be missing it. I remember that storm being a clipper on steroids, that blew up in to a miller B.. I hope we see a cold storm like that again some time soon. It was an awesome set up and such a cold storm.

Yeah single digits that morning. It was awesome watching it dive down from Minnesota and race across the I-80 corridor

[Radders]

Yeah single digits that morning. It was awesome watching it dive down from Minnesota and race across the I-80 corridor

 

i think there was a huge strip of the country along I-80 back towards Chicago, that got a foot of snow out of that.. One potent clipper!

[SnoSki14]

This pattern does have some potential, it's certainly an active pattern and the southern jet is more active as well. It's also a gradient pattern where the difference between blinding snow and heavy rain could be a few miles, but at least there's something going on and the dry spell is finally over. 

[Radders]

This pattern does have some potential, it's certainly an active pattern and the southern jet is more active as well. It's also a gradient pattern where the difference between blinding snow and heavy rain could be a few miles, but at least there's something going on and the dry spell is finally over. 

 

Agreed, no complaints here..  Hopefully as we get in to Jan/Feb we can see a more amplified pattern with a +PNA and/or Atlantic blocking... It would be nice to slow the flow down a little, but I guess we can't have it all!!

[REDMK6GLI]

Everyone, what are some epic bands of snow that you remember ? For me, 12/30/2000. We were forecasted to receive 6-12" and start at around daybreak. I woke up at around 3am to RIPPING HEAVY snow, getting progressively heavy and blinding. We wound up with 18", most of it falling in 4-5 hours

Easily for me 12/25/04. Forecast to changeover to snow in the evening as nor'easter pulls away and accumulate 1-3". Well let me tell you by far the heaviest snow ive seen. From 5-11pm at night i went from rain to blinding heavy snow. In a matter of 6 hours i accumulated 14.5" and was some of the most intense snow ive seen in my life. Even february blizzard and boxing day blizzard in my opinion doesnt come close to it.

[Stormlover74]

Easily for me 12/25/04. Forecast to changeover to snow in the evening as nor'easter pulls away and accumulate 1-3". Well let me tell you by far the heaviest snow ive seen. From 5-11pm at night i went from rain to blinding heavy snow. In a matter of 6 hours i accumulated 14.5" and was some of the most intense snow ive seen in my life. Even february blizzard and boxing day blizzard in my opinion doesnt come close to it.

02?

[WintersGrasp]

Wow I remember that christmas snow too ! Incredible ! Even tho I think we only wound up with 7" here in NE NJ, it was crazy

[snywx]

Easily for me 12/25/04. Forecast to changeover to snow in the evening as nor'easter pulls away and accumulate 1-3". Well let me tell you by far the heaviest snow ive seen. From 5-11pm at night i went from rain to blinding heavy snow. In a matter of 6 hours i accumulated 14.5" and was some of the most intense snow ive seen in my life. Even february blizzard and boxing day blizzard in my opinion doesnt come close to it.

That was 2002

[Storm At Sea]

Outside of living in the Southtowns of Buffalo and dealing with lake effect snow for three years, along with heavy lake effect snows in Erie, PA for two years, the greatest rate that I've observed on the East Coast was 3.5-4 inch/hour rates during the Jan. 1999 debacle. A band of very intense snow backed into the coast while forecasts and models were showing a complete miss. Probably one of the biggest forecast busts of modern era. Unfortunately, the band moved NW and dryslotted much of NJ, but not before dropping 5-10 inches of snow. Some areas to the west easily saw 10-20 inches.

[snywx]

Had 18" up this way for the christmas storm..

[REDMK6GLI]

That was 2002

I stand corrected it was 02'

[snywx]

The snowicane back in Feb 2010 had one of the sharpest & strangest R/S lines I have ever seen. Also rivaled some of the greatest storms in regards to snowfall rates. Def in my top 3 for snowstorms.. 25-38" widespread up here

[Guest Pamela]

Outside of living in the Southtowns of Buffalo and dealing with lake effect snow for three years, along with heavy lake effect snows in Erie, PA for two years, the greatest rate that I've observed on the East Coast was 3.5-4 inch/hour rates during the Jan. 1999 debacle. A band of very intense snow backed into the coast while forecasts and models were showing a complete miss. Probably one of the biggest forecast busts of modern era. Unfortunately, the band moved NW and dryslotted much of NJ, but not before dropping 5-10 inches of snow. Some areas to the west easily saw 10-20 inches.

2/11/83, 1/15/04, 12/19/09, & 2/8/13 featured some of the best snowfall rates I can recall since I moved to the Island in '71.

[REDMK6GLI]

Outside of living in the Southtowns of Buffalo and dealing with lake effect snow for three years, along with heavy lake effect snows in Erie, PA for two years, the greatest rate that I've observed on the East Coast was 3.5-4 inch/hour rates during the Jan. 1999 debacle. A band of very intense snow backed into the coast while forecasts and models were showing a complete miss. Probably one of the biggest forecast busts of modern era. Unfortunately, the band moved NW and dryslotted much of NJ, but not before dropping 5-10 inches of snow. Some areas to the west easily saw 10-20 inches.

I would love to experience some lake effect snows. Heard it is some really intense snowfall under those stronger bands

[danstorm]

Everyone, what are some epic bands of snow that you remember ? For me, 12/30/2000. We were forecasted to receive 6-12" and start at around daybreak. I woke up at around 3am to RIPPING HEAVY snow, getting progressively heavy and blinding. We wound up with 18", most of it falling in 4-5 hours

 

1/12/2011 in Ridgefield, Ct.  We had legitimate 5"/hr rates and 15" in a little more than 4 hrs.  Ended up with 2 feet from that bad boy.  In the top 3 lifetime, right up there with Jan 1996 and Jan 2005 in Boston. 

[Storm At Sea]

It truly can pour snow at times during heavy lake effect bands. By far, the most perfect dendrites and just absolutely blinding (no due to wind either). Erie, PA was probably the most impressive for me...I witnessed thunder snow on at least three or four times while living there. I do remember one night when it snowed about a foot and a half overnight, unexpectedly.

 

 

I would love to experience some lake effect snows. Heard it is some really intense snowfall under those stronger bands

[REDMK6GLI]

It truly can pour snow at times during heavy lake effect bands. By far, the most perfect dendrites and just absolutely blinding (no due to wind either). Erie, PA was probably the most impressive for me...I witnessed thunder snow on at least three or four times while living there. I do remember one night when it snowed about a foot and a half overnight, unexpectedly.

Think some of my vacation time may be spent next year experiencing that. Being a winter weather lover, its my goal to experience full on lake effect snow

[MJO812]

GFS has an icestorm for the entire area for next weekend. 850's are warm but the surface temps are cold.

[Mikehobbyst]

GFS has an icestorm for the entire area for next weekend. 850's are warm but the surface temps are cold.

It is shockingly playing out the 1998 ice disaster in Quebec, right in our backyard.  Do any mets see this potential massive ice storm gaining traction in the 6-8 day window.  Looks like 28-30 degree temps with 1-3 inches of ZR glaze.  This would likely cause 1-2 week power outages, and with extreme cold pattern, would be a top 5 worst event over the past 100 years, if this happens as modeled.  Hope this is completely out to lunch and wrong.  Pray to God it is wrong.  This would make the 1/1994 event look like a lame joke.  If the pattern is going to cause too much pain, flip the dam EPO to neutral already to at least give us some break from too much winter.

[MJO812]

It is shockingly playing out the 1998 ice disaster in Quebec, right in our backyard.  Do any mets see this potential massive ice storm gaining traction in the 6-8 day window.  Looks like 28-30 degree temps with 1-3 inches of ZR glaze.  This would likely cause 1-2 week power outages, and with extreme cold pattern, would be a top 5 worst event over the past 100 years, if this happens as modeled.  Hope this is completely out to lunch and wrong.  Pray to God it is wrong.  This would make the 1/1994 event look like a lame joke.  If the pattern is going to cause too much pain, flip the dam EPO to neutral already to at least give us some break from too much winter.

We still have a million model runs to go before next weekend.

[SnoSki14]

A nice cold high locks in to our NW with this so there will be a lot of cold air to tap, I'm hoping it trends colder aloft and the surface so we can see snow instead of ice.

[NorthShoreWx]

2/11/83, 1/15/04, 12/19/09, & 2/8/13 featured some of the best snowfall rates I can recall since I moved to the Island in '71.

Same list here, except I'd change 1/15/04 to 1/27/04 (suspect that is what you meant as well).  I might add 4/9/1996 to the list.  Probably  '78 too, although my recall of that detail isn't as specific...I think there were a few hours of crazy rates on 2/6.