michsnowfreak Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Funny thing this, you said earlier this week that there was no way we'd lose the snowpack (and I said even you would b**ch about losing the snowpack before Christmas). But anyways, I'm going to try and ignore the weather over the next 2 weeks. Doesn't look like anything of interest will come out of it as this convoluted BS of a winter storm has worked over the atmosphere. Tisk tisk tisk, no twisting words now . What I said was that taking the models VERBATUM AT THAT TIME we would not lose the entire snowpack. They were showing some light rain, possibly ending as snow, on Friday, with temps briefly spiking into the low 40s...then heavy rain with temps in the low-mid 30s Saturday night. Well, the Saturday part was dead-on with tons of 33-34F rain, but Friday turned out to be a much more prolonged, high dewpoint situation than anticipated. Not only was it above freezing constantly from about 9am Thursday onward, we were "treated" to near 100% humidity all day Friday. Snowpack here was 8" Thu am, 5" Fri am, 2" Sat am, 1" this am and T now. We were bludgeoned down to a 2-inch snowpack by Saturday morning from the Friday mess, and NO WAY did I or anyone else anticipate that when I made those comments earlier in the week. The discussion was whether or not 33F heavy rain would wash away a decent snowpack on frozen ground, and my experience has proven in the past that NO it wont. If anything I was proven correct that a 2" snowpack only lost 1" following 1.40" of cold rain. But you WERE right about one thing. I am pissed about the snowpack, especially since I had the deepest snowpack in SE MI a few days ago and now have among the least. I may change my mind with the next nice snowstorm that comes, and Im sure its because Im in a grouchy mood and its a few days til Christmas, but I am THIS close to saying I honestly would prefer a 25-inch arctic tundra winter with no exciting storms but a constant snowpack over a 65-inch winter with several nice storms but several snowpack depleting thaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Backlash -SN pushing in now. Temp down to 23°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Back in Howell... There is still enough snow to qualify for a white Christmas and probably several more inches of LES between today and Wednesday. Its re-coated with white now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Back in Howell... There is still enough snow to qualify for a white Christmas and probably several more inches of LES between today and Wednesday. Its re-coated with white now. the warm tongue of death along the river. i had twice as much as you earlier in the week, and now I am down to snowbanks, piles, and a few patches of snow. hopefully we all get some snow tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Back in Howell... There is still enough snow to qualify for a white Christmas and probably several more inches of LES between today and Wednesday. Its re-coated with white now. the warm tongue of death along the river. i had twice as much as you earlier in the week, and now I am down to snowbanks, piles, and a few patches of snow. hopefully we all get some snow tomorrow night. Don't feel bad, compared to the snow I just witnessed, this is just scraps from the feast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Temperatures destined to stay below 30° through next Sunday currently. +1° for tomorrow night and -4° for Thursday night now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Don't feel bad, compared to the snow I just witnessed, this is just scraps from the feast. Yeah...our loss is their gain (like they deserve or need synoptic snow ) Im sure we have plenty more snow coming down this way this winter anyway, but I may sneak up to NW lower in Jan as an appetizer for a Feb trip to the UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Awaiting the next round of fun. I hope it is a while before DTW area is on the wrong side of the Low for some time. Who knows this might of been our January thaw !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Awaiting the next round of fun. I hope it is a while before DTW area is on the wrong side of the Low for some time. Who knows this might of been our January thaw !! Could be. If theres one good thing about it, the ground should get some white back soon enough. You know the rule around here lately. Build up a nice snowpack, then get JUST the right conditions to destroy it (be it a 1-2 day torch or a 3-day fog-murk-rain fest), then have the cold flood back in and start over again with fresh white in a relatively short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow poke Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Don't feel bad, compared to the snow I just witnessed, this is just scraps from the feast. The snow up northern lower is great right now, best it's been this early in the season in a long long time. Yesterday was the earliest we have rode snowmobiles on our lake, Higgins, since 1997. Takes a long time for it to freeze because it's so deep. We rode up to Indian River through Gaylord yesterday and had good snow the whole ride. The deepest snow we saw was a little south west of Indian River, 16-20" I bet. We rode a little over 190 miles yesterday but could have rode a bunch more because the trails and snow were so good. Looks like it's shaping up to be a great holiday week for snow lovers in MI north of West Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Total mood snowfall tonight. Picked up 0.1" of fluff so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Current snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Even the remaining patches of snow have really dwindled away slowly today. Now outside of the manmade piles, just a very few patches of snow remain. It just will not drop to freezing yet. We are now at 85 consecutive hours above freezing here (though in that time we never eclipsed the low 40s). Talk about garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 In for a cold 48hrs or so here. Point has 5 tonight, 8 for a high tomorrow, -11 tomorrow night, and 13 for a high Tue. Was some minor blowing snow out in the open country tonight as winds picked up. A few of the rural roads had quite a bit of snow blowing over the road. EDIT: Does the site speed seem slow tonight or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Virtually guaranteed a white Xmas here with the absolute glacier snow pack; or rather ice pack. About 4-5" of waterlogged snow, and a quarter inch crusting of ice on top, with temperatures to hit the single digit (F) range on Tuesday night... this is the true definition of glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Even the remaining patches of snow have really dwindled away slowly today. Now outside of the manmade piles, just a very few patches of snow remain. It just will not drop to freezing yet. We are now at 85 consecutive hours above freezing here (though in that time we never eclipsed the low 40s). Talk about garbage. Still have a solid two or three inches in most places here. Sorry for hogging it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 The snow's patchy, but in most spots, there's JUST enough to cover the grass tips. So I would say about 1" remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Still have a solid two or three inches in most places here. Sorry for hogging it Youre hogging the colder temps lol . On the 17th I had a 9" depth and West Bloomfield had a 6" depth....we are working on 86 consecutive hours above freezing...should add another hour or two onto it Powerball..you are in NE Detroit right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Still have a solid two or three inches in most places here. Sorry for hogging it We have around 2" back home as well, probably with a 3:1 or 2:1 liquid content too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Picked up another 0.2" tonight. Have hit the 12.0" mark for the month to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Snowing here decent clip too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chances14 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 A few pics from around my property today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 These ice storm pics coming out of the GTA are pretty incredible, definitely a memorable event up there. On a side note, I'll be heading to Quebec City for New Years. Euro and GFS are showing much of central Quebec in the -30 C isotherm at the surface!! Bitterly cold air on the way for the midwest and south central Canada as the polar vortex migrates south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Well this is an interesting surprise, I am at 3/4SM with light snow here and it is sticking to the ground, if this is any indication how the lake effect is going to be today, someone is going to get a pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Crazy, but Gaylord is at 86.4" for the season. Should cross the 100" mark by the months end. Knee deep or better all around Antrim county. Some of the woods I'm sure has 30". My neighbor told me yesterday that winters that don't get thaws, depth can approach 55"+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Sitting at a big goose egg right now after dropping to -1. Wind chills hovering close to -20. EDIT: Last season we only had 2 days below zero the whole season, with the coldest being a meager -3. This month alone we've already had 5 days below zero, with maybe several more to go before new years. Also already have last season's coldest beat with the -6 that occurred Dec 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Received 0.5" since 7pm last night. Very high ratio stuff. 18° currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmett Brown Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Big fat dendrites here. Probably about a very fluffy inch since last evening. Looks awesome. 16F currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 What cold December? Not for the Ohio Valley ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 -12 to -15 departures for the month in the Northern Plains is pretty insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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