KamuSnow Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Nice .5" of mood snow this am. Big winter coming no wonder the snow owls have flown hundreds of miles further south than normal. No dusting down south here this morning, but this week's snow still looks great. Still some clumps blowing off of the trees today. Also lots of wildlife tracks here and there, in spots it looks like a snow covered elementary school playground after recess. A bunch of robins flew in yesterday morning, they looked a bit lost. Guess they forgot to fly south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman56 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Expected a low of 8 last night, only got to 11.7 in NW Chesco. Too much cloudiness and breeze stayed up. Back up around 18 at sunrise. At least the ground is good and frozen for this storm. Last storm was like a March situation with mainly unfrozen ground - a real PIA to plow when not on blacktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 a look back to 1960... http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?13554 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Like the picture and memory uncle, my grandfather was a trolley driver in philly around that time frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm digging the warmup late next week. Wouldn't mind some days in the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 First snow reported in Cairo in 100 years, 3' snow near Jerusalem http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snow-israel-egypt-20131213,0,1691393.story#axzz2nMzV6vMp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wederwarrior Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Great to see some snow on the ground before another event. Makes it feel like a real winter Even though the sun has baked a couple spots off Hope everyone is enjoying this "preseason" as much as I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Great to see some snow on the ground before another event. Makes it feel like a real winter Even though the sun has baked a couple spots off Hope everyone is enjoying this "preseason" as much as I am I agree, and I am enjoying it too...might even get out the sleds tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 a look back to 1960... http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?13554 I remember that one - started snowing in the morning on (Sunday?) Dec. 11th, snowed about 3 inches by 1pm, there was a lull until 4 pm, then it started up again and went through most of the night. Some wind too. We left our sleds out and couldn't find them the next morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Check this out... http://www.tnonline.com/2013/dec/13/winter-wonderland-park-cancelled Apparently, the Borough of Jim Thorpe's "Winter Wonderland in the Park" festivities are cancelled for tonight because of the winter storm. Sort of defeats the purpose, doesn't it? I would think that the snow would ADD to the atmosphere of the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 For those who aren't familiar with soundings, I found this vid on how to read one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMg8xEHnh-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 0z NAM shows 2-3" for the LV and Poconos on Tuesday. SREF mean has about 1.5" for ABE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn510 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Why do the amounts displayed in The storm totals on the nws site differ so much. Going by the latest reports time wise it showed 3 inches in palmer twshp yet myself and at least 4 other peoe whether it be on here or twiiter/facebook all posted 7-8 inches for the easton area. Also other towns as well comparing obs and what was posted on nws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Why do the amounts displayed in The storm totals on the nws site differ so much. Going by the latest reports time wise it showed 3 inches in palmer twshp yet myself and at least 4 other peoe whether it be on here or twiiter/facebook all posted 7-8 inches for the easton area. Also other towns as well comparing obs and what was posted on nws. Mitch isn't at work anymore, so I'm not sure who, if anyone, is browsing the thread at present. Might be better to call the office or post on their Facebook page to get your totals in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn510 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Its not just this storm that its happening. I see it all the time. Maybe the central park zoo keeper imposters everyone and sends in numbers from different towns lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Also note the time listed on the reports. Sometimes they are old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 0z GFS puts the brakes on next weeks torch and pulls off a christmas miracle...nice fantasy run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 0z GFS puts the brakes on next weeks torch and pulls off a christmas miracle...nice fantasy run Me and Ryan will be in town... so impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Me and Ryan will be in town... so impossible It's deep winter Ray the snow owls have retreated to the Carolinas it's game on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonwx Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Why do the amounts displayed in The storm totals on the nws site differ so much. Going by the latest reports time wise it showed 3 inches in palmer twshp yet myself and at least 4 other peoe whether it be on here or twiiter/facebook all posted 7-8 inches for the easton area. Also other towns as well comparing obs and what was posted on nws. It could be that not everyone who posts a report is measuring accurately. They sometimes measure off the ground, or the roof of their car, etc. The NWS has a 14 page report on how to correctly measure snow: NWS Snow Measuring Guidlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 0z GFS puts the brakes on next weeks torch and pulls off a christmas miracle...nice fantasy run we are use to this now so trend continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Also note the time listed on the reports. Sometimes they are old. Ray, How would I report 1.5" of snow, followed by .3" of sleet, followed by .2" of snow, which measured at 2" before the change to rain? Should I parse out the sleet and call it 1.7" of snow? And this is not including the mashdown from the freezing rain that followed that left a net of about 1.3" of water ice. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 So who else thinks we flirt with 70 degrees in philly by late week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowwors2 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Here's some OT "non-storm" banter for you.... What the h@ll are the eagles doing on their kickoffs! I know their intent but it's NOT working...jees!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Ray, How would I report 1.5" of snow, followed by .3" of sleet, followed by .2" of snow, which measured at 2" before the change to rain? Should I parse out the sleet and call it 1.7" of snow? And this is not including the mashdown from the freezing rain that followed that left a net of about 1.3" of water ice. Thanks! The new guidelines say you report the max depth on your snow measurement surface (board). So, if it was 2" deep max, you would report that. Sleet counts as snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 The new guidelines say you report the max depth on your snow measurement surface (board). So, if it was 2" deep max, you would report that. Sleet counts as snow. Okay - thank you Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 So who else thinks we flirt with 70 degrees in philly by late week? I don't know - I've seen it get to close to 70 in April with snow on the ground (the day after it snowed even), not so sure about December. I realize at the end of the period the snowpack I have will likely be gone, but it might take till Saturday for that to happen. Hoping for a little padding on Mon. night/Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I don't know - I've seen it get to close to 70 in April with snow on the ground (the day after it snowed even), not so sure about December. I realize at the end of the period the snowpack I have will likely be gone, but it might take till Saturday for that to happen. Hoping for a little padding on Mon. night/Tuesday. There's only 3" of snow on the ground at PHL. They can add to that Tuesday but snow likes to melt fast around there, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 This has been an awesome start to the winter. Way above any reasonable expectations for this area (12.7 inches to date). Looking ahead, while we may get something Monday night and Tuesday, I'm thinking ahead to next week, so here is my snow weenie wish list between now and Christmas: Ideally, whatever happens this week, some new snow right before or even around Christmas would be great. If that can't happen, then having something still on the ground and cold outside (with an interesting pattern). If none of those can happen, a leftover pile of snow would be acceptable. That at this point has the best chance of verifying, and is the only one I have any control over - one pile likely has enough mass to make it through the weekend! (Return of cold air next week would help). These can also be combined of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 There's only 3" of snow on the ground at PHL. They can add to that Tuesday but snow likes to melt fast around there, that's for sure. Yes it does, it's very sunny over there! I realize close to 70 is possible. My thought process is likely influenced by how cold it's been recently overall, combined with the last sequence of warm-up/cool-down we had 10 days ago, and we didn't have snow on the ground. I'm thinking the ground is good and cold. Then again with this pattern, the warm air isn't all that far away, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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