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December Pattern Disco- 2013


Damage In Tolland

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I'll certainly enjoy these next 2 snowstorms and cold..but I just hate that thought of a torching rainstorm and warmth with high dews looming over our heads late next week. You work so hard to get the goods and the pattern and snowpack established an in one day it's completely wiped out. 

Hopefully there's still time to limit it or pinch off

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Long range still looks good. Maybe storminess near and after Christmas.

Do you think we can still have  a shot at getting snow before Christmas to replace it all melting..or not till after?

Enjoy what's coming. Things always change in the medium and long range. Worrying now dampens the joy of the next week.

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Hope the EC ensembles are right for the warm up...they keep us about on the line and we'd probably escape with relatively little damage to snow pack....but I'm starting to think we might get slaughtered for a coupel days...hopefully we don't. At least all the guidance says its temporary and we'd go back cold.

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I will enjoy it..but it's just my nature to worry. Hopefully things trend colder and we can save a bit of snow

 

If you expect nothing, then everything you do get is a bonus.  Whatever will come, will come - No sense in worrying - Just enjoy the weather that you have.  BTW, you would have hated the winter of '95-'96.  We had 120" of snow at the peak we had two weeks of warm weather that ate through over 3' of snow on the ground.

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Hope the EC ensembles are right for the warm up...they keep us about on the line and we'd probably escape with relatively little damage to snow pack....but I'm starting to think we might get slaughtered for a coupel days...hopefully we don't. At least all the guidance says its temporary and we'd go back cold.

What is making you think it's a slaugher on the herd?

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Hope the EC ensembles are right for the warm up...they keep us about on the line and we'd probably escape with relatively little damage to snow pack....but I'm starting to think we might get slaughtered for a coupel days...hopefully we don't. At least all the guidance says its temporary and we'd go back cold.

What is making you think it's a slaugher on the herd?

A lot of guidance says we torch while we reshuffle. Signal is too strong to me and hopefully wrong but probably not.

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What is making you think it's a slaugher on the herd?

 

 

It has "the look" with a stout building high off the east coast and trough trying to dig deeper in the west than previous guidance. There's still a chance we only get semi-mild for a day or two, but the evidence is starting to build for a 2 day slaughter.

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Hope the EC ensembles are right for the warm up...they keep us about on the line and we'd probably escape with relatively little damage to snow pack....but I'm starting to think we might get slaughtered for a coupel days...hopefully we don't. At least all the guidance says its temporary and we'd go back cold.

Timeframe?

 

Congrats to all for feeling like January out there right now.  Just the little bit of breeze at 22F or whatever I've got outside makes it feel a bit bone chilling.

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Meh, personal druthers but I could care less about sustaining a snow pack.  I just want interesting weather.  I think going from a this freezer with a couple of wintry threats, to possible 60F afternoon is interestingly dramatic in its self.  But that's just me...

 

Although, I would be a liar if tried to say I didn't care about a white x-mass...  That's definitely a sentimental aspect for.  I remember when I was child, there was a winter storm watch on x-mass eve, for a combination of freezing rain and mix.   There was no snow on the ground, and when we awoke, it was a blue-tinted dawn that turned into post-card setting.  6" and lingering medium sized 'chutes the whole day.   I have to admit, there's something about that mystique.   I wonder how people in the deep south feel about it?  I bet they don't even care, because it's not really integrated into their histories.   

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It has "the look" with a stout building high off the east coast and trough trying to dig deeper in the west than previous guidance. There's still a chance we only get semi-mild for a day or two, but the evidence is starting to build for a 2 day slaughter.

 

I would side with shorter duration, seriously...  We are not losing the background "speedy" character to the flow, so these meridional depictions by the Euro (notwithstanding it has a bias in that regard for D6-10, anway) are less supported.   I do agree that we are slated to get warmer, though -- it almost has to.  

 

That said ... we really don't need 2 days to do a lot of damage, if it is snow pack folks are interested in preserving.  There could be 12 hours of 55F over a 42F DP, and 22kts BL wind gust from the SW and we'd be bare ground in a heart beat.  Actually, might be run-off flood concerns given to a frozen ground.   

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I would side with shorter duration, seriously...  We are not losing the background "speedy" character to the flow, so these meridional depictions by the Euro (notwithstanding it has a bias in that regard for D6-10, anway) are less supported.   I do agree that we are slated to get warmer, though -- it almost has to.  

 

That said ... we really don't need 2 days to do a lot of damage, if it is snow pack folks are interested in preserving.  There could be 12 hours of 55F over a 42F DP, and 22kts BL wind gust from the SW and we'd be bare ground in a heart beat.  Actually, might be run-off flood concerns given to a frozen ground.   

 

Well today's Euro is def shorter duration. It has only one mild day next Friday and then an sharp arctic front Saturday morning.

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I'm not familiar with the clipper redevelopment. What are potential accums with an event such as that?

 

 

Its too far out to really even seriously discuss accumulations. Sometimes though they can produce surprising amounts though (like 4-8" type snows) f they redevelop quick enough...but you would obviously hedge significantly lower than that at this time lead. Euro has more of a 1-3" type deal though maybe some higher lollis in NE MA and higher yet into downeast ME.

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Its too far out to really even seriously discuss accumulations. Sometimes though they can produce surprising amounts though (like 4-8" type snows) f they redevelop quick enough...but you would obviously hedge significantly lower than that at this time lead. Euro has more of a 1-3" type deal though maybe some higher lollis in NE MA and higher yet into downeast ME.

Cool thanks. Seems like a pretty cool revolution overall though. Would be nice to have another little snow event, but obviously we have a much larger system to deal with first

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