Cold Miser Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'd be curious to know what some of the snow totals are so far for places in the western-deep-southern regions of the country. I expect that some of them are probably much more than any SNE so far this season. (not talking west/ rockies regions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 How come it seems like we never have genuine Alberta clippers and Saskatchewan Screamers any longer? It seems like the core of the northern stream jet is hung up over the southern Canada border with the US and will once in a blue moon drop southward for a killer clipper, but those seem more and more rare now. I don't know maybe the pattern we are just in for right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'd be curious to know what some of the snow totals are so far for places in the western-deep-southern regions of the country. I expect that some of them are probably much more than any SNE so far this season. (not talking west/ rockies regions) 0.5" for DFW, 4.7" for OKC as a for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You don't get many clippers with a Nina type pattern that promotes troughing in the west. We've been in this regime for quote a few years aside 2009/2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 You don't get many clippers with a Nina type pattern that promotes troughing in the west. We've been in this regime for quote a few years aside 2009/2010. But we did have a great clipper New Year's Eve 2008/9 in a similar pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 But we did have a great clipper New Year's Eve 2008/9 in a similar pattern. That trough approaching really amplified allowing for the s/w to strengthen really rapidly right off the coast...was perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 But we did have a great clipper New Year's Eve 2008/9 in a similar pattern. Yeah if we get the west to cooperate we can. But I mean in general. It's obviously not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A good week to be in the tug upcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A good week to be in the tug upcoming. The soundings for ART are impressive. Lake temps around 47 on Ontario, and H8 temps crashing to the upper teens below 0 C. That's lake induced CAPE of 800-1000 J/kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 The soundings for ART are impressive. Lake temps around 47 on Ontario, and H8 temps crashing to the upper teens below 0 C. That's lake induced CAPE of 800-1000 J/kg. LES and waterspouts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 LES and waterspouts They've got the DOWs in the area, so I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a few circulations in there. http://owles.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 They've got the DOWs in the area, so I wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a few circulations in there. http://owles.org/ That's awesome! That project is a significant boost for LES forecasting/understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Definitely a huge LES signal upcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Definitely a huge LES signal upcoming. Hey btw...did you go to BUF during thanksgiving and did you observe some les? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hey btw...did you go to BUF during thanksgiving and did you observe some les? I did, we got like 6" total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I did, we got like 6" total. Lol...6 more than the rest of us saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yeah true, I think eastern areas get something Tuesday, but right now it looks light at best unless the NAM scores big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Tuesday ain't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would keep an eye on next weekend into early next week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would keep an eye on next weekend into early next week too. oh no. that was James 300hr fantasy event from a few days ago lol. If that fruit was to bear, Id kneel before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would keep an eye on next weekend into early next week too. Yeah that timeframe (especially 17th-20th) could feature some potential if the pattern evolves as depicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would keep an eye on next weekend into early next week too. It does have a better look, as the western trough tries to reload and ejects a piece east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 oh no. that was James 300hr fantasy event from a few days ago lol. If that fruit was to bear, Id kneel before him. LOL, well it seems to have a better look. At work now and finally looking at the models. There is the chance is gets squashed...but we are pretty far out in time. We actually might get a s/w diving south through the plains and perhaps a piece of energy ejecting east like OceanSt said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would keep an eye on next weekend into early next week too. I agree Tuesday probably not, but next weekend into early next week looks like a good possibility for a coastal as PV reloads, allowing the northern stream to amplify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 LOL, well it seems to have a better look. At work now and finally looking at the models. There is the chance is gets squashed...but we are pretty far out in time. We actually might get a s/w diving south through the plains and perhaps a piece of energy ejecting east like OceanSt said. SO you think we have a better chance of it going out to sea then cutting correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I would keep an eye on next weekend into early next week too. I've heard some buzz about next weekend time period as well. Cold will be in place potentially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 SO you think we have a better chance of it going out to sea then cutting correct? Well it's really too early to say. If you base everything on the 12z runs (except for euro ensembles which have not come out yet) it favored somehting well offshore, but 00z runs could easily phase the two jets over in the Plains and bring it us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 0.5" for DFW, 4.7" for OKC as a for instance. lol. Dallas with .5 more then my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 LOL, well it seems to have a better look. At work now and finally looking at the models. There is the chance is gets squashed...but we are pretty far out in time. We actually might get a s/w diving south through the plains and perhaps a piece of energy ejecting east like OceanSt said. looks extremely timing sensitive without an ideal atlantic.if it ejects too early the clipper in the GL squashes it. too late and the cold air slides out. obv way out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 looks extremely timing sensitive without an ideal atlantic.if it ejects too early the clipper in the GL squashes it. too late and the cold air slides out. obv way out there. Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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