TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 That's about 6 or more hours of good snow before taint on the gfs. Even with taint, that's not necessarily rain either. Fun times. 6 hours of snow would be good for at least 2-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard24 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 hi looks good for snow and then a ice storm for northern ct area this sunday /monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Some rather big differences in how the GEFS and EC handles the Pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Some rather big differences in how the GEFS and EC handles the Pacific. GEFS looked like no bed of roses in the long range (11-15) so is euro better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 GEFS looked like no bed of roses in the long range (11-15) so is euro better? No EC is worse. They retro the ridge to Kamchatka with lower heights in the GOA. The reason why we aren't torched verbatim is because of subtle height rises over the southwest US and a weak east based -NAO. Once again, riding the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Man were overnight models icy for Monday. let's just get thru tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Man were overnight models icy for Monday. let's just get thru tomorrow Yep, for Pike north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 No EC is worse. They retro the ridge to Kamchatka with lower heights in the GOA. The reason why we aren't torched verbatim is because of subtle height rises over the southwest US and a weak east based -NAO. Once again, riding the line. But, if the ridge retros, it may pop an Aleutian or AK low and help raise heights over the west which sort of happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yep, for Pike north.Is the ice for west of 495, ughhh? Say no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Is the ice for west of 495, ughhh? Say no Yeah it would probably be like 2-4 followed by ice, esp ORH hills on north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yep, for Pike north. Noone in the interior wouold get abovefreezing. lots of cold to move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 But, if the ridge retros, it may pop an Aleutian or AK low and help raise heights over the west which sort of happens. So both want to retro but add features to keep the dead rats away. Should be an interesting period...potentially frigid and snowy and at the same time mild...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Noone in the interior wouold get abovefreezing. lots of cold to move Yeah...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Is the ice for west of 495, ughhh? Say no You want ice? No thank you! Sleet is ok but zr may break my bones...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 So both want to retro but add features to keep the dead rats away. Should be an interesting period...potentially frigid and snowy and at the same time mild...lol. Yeah, I'm not sold on the retro as stark as the euro...but part of the reason why we don't furnace is because of the PV on our side. My guess is we still may relax a bit, but for now..I don't think it's a complete dud. The cold is close by. I hope the euro comes back with the -NAO, because it lost a lot of that feature as well. I think models are having a hard time with handling of these features so it would not shock me if they change quite a bit from run to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The flow is still NW enough to keep Pacific taint at a minimum. At least as modeled. If the heights out west rise just a bit more...it would be a darn good pattern. It looks pretty active as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 You want ice? No thank you! Sleet is ok but zr may break my bones...lol. Yes..I want an icestorm like ORH had in 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yes..I want an icestorm like ORH had in 2008 LOL, that ain't coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yes..I want an icestorm like ORH had in 2008 lol. not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 lol. not happening As long as we lock in ll cold anything is possible..Still a few runs to hone in on details of snow/ice etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yeah it would probably be like 2-4 followed by ice, esp ORH hills on north. So to rain ne mass , u think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 As long as we lock in ll cold anything is possible..Still a few runs to hone in on details of snow/ice etcStorms like that are pretty rare. It could happen for KTOL though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 So to rain ne mass , u think Probably some IP after several inches of snow, then a 32.00001F rain for interior NE MA. Where you are, minimal icing then rain. Of course we are discussing details 5 days out...but just telling you verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 So to rain ne mass , u think They way I look at it...not a bad start for early December. Remember it is early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 But, if the ridge retros, it may pop an Aleutian or AK low and help raise heights over the west which sort of happens. But, if the ridge retros, it may pop an Aleutian or AK low and help raise heights over the west which sort of happens. I think, starting with sunday/monday, we are going to ride the line a bit, but we are going to find several ways for it to snow and get cold. SWFE, then if we get a little blocking and some western ridging, perhaps a Miller B. Then, a period of NAO blocking and a good old fashioned (is that a meteorological term?) Miller A. In between we have normal warm ups but with snow cover and a radically cold Canada we get very very cold at times and torches have a hard time really having an impact. I am very optimistic, Weenies gonna ween, but also Debbies gonna Deb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Probably some IP after several inches of snow, then a 32.00001F rain for interior NE MA. Where you are, minimal icing then rain. Of course we are discussing details 5 days out...but just telling you verbatim. Understood and appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I think, starting with sunday/monday, we are going to ride the line a bit, but we are going to find several ways for it to snow and get cold. SWFE, then if we get a little blocking and some western ridging, perhaps a Miller B. Then, a period of NAO blocking and a good old fashioned (is that a meteorological term?) Miller A. In between we have normal warm ups but with snow cover and a radically cold Canada we get very very cold at times and torches have a hard time really having an impact. I am very optimistic, Weenies gonna ween, but also Debbies gonna Deb. Well lets not forget, just because we discuss models that might not always be cold and snowy...doesn't mean Debbies gonna Deb. That's one aspect of the board that needs to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Well lets not forget, just because we discuss models that might not always be cold and snowy...doesn't mean Debbies gonna Deb. That's one aspect of the board that needs to change. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Yes..I want an icestorm like ORH had in 2008 In order to get that, you will have to move to ORH and wait for that setup. That was really torched above the surface and huge qpf. Disaster for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Well lets not forget, just because we discuss models that might not always be cold and snowy...doesn't mean Debbies gonna Deb. That's one aspect of the board that needs to change. That wasn't directed at you (in case you thought it was). You aren't a Debbie. I was just pointing out, that while we lean to the ween, we also have some who seem eager to let us know the potential bad news...even some mets who post more and quickly when the there is a negative sign. So the Debs do Deb. I just think it is a balance and personality issue. Thankfully I am just above all of this, and I always know exactly what is going to happen. Whew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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