NorthShoreWx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 8:45 PM, tamarack said: Appears much more logical, thanks. I'm guessing the AP records don't extend back thru 1917. A lot of coop stations came "on line" on 8/1/48. If Pittsburgh's is one of those, it also misses 1933 abd the most recent (IIRC) Dec sub-zero for NYC, in 1942. NYC was -1 on 12/25/1980. That is the record at Central Park for Christmas day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Talking nationally, about as impressive an Arctic outbreak as seen in decades. Nice to see early season thoughts of some extreme intrusions this year panning out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 8:49 PM, CoastalWx said: Of course, but it seems sanity sometimes takes a back seat in here. I love winter as much as anyone. Summer can suck a big one for all I care....this is what I live for. It just seems lately if your not all cold and all snow all the time..you're an outsider. I also see some horrible reading comprehension. Talking about what models show doesn't equate to a forecast. one post is all I saw and you act like it is endemic, drama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 EC ensembles continue to improve towards the end of the run. Nice -NAO developing with troughing over the lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 8:56 PM, Ginxy said: one post is all I saw and you act like it is endemic, drama? Just look at the previous pages. All sorts of feces being thrown around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 8:49 PM, CoastalWx said: Of course, but it seems sanity sometimes takes a back seat in here. I love winter as much as anyone. Summer can suck a big one for all I care....this is what I live for. It just seems lately if your not all cold and all snow all the time..you're an outsider. I also see some horrible reading comprehension. Talking about what models show doesn't equate to a forecast. Weenies gonna ween. You guys better not talk about a thaw anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 10-day Canadian temp anomaly has virtually the entire Canadian shield negative, and some areas in south-central approaching extreme values. I've seen this product for years and that's quite rare to have that much mass on the negative side; and the magnitude notwithstanding. If this is your source region you are getting very cold. Question becomes just how zonal the flow is ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:10 PM, powderfreak said: Weenies gonna ween. You guys better not talk about a thaw anytime soon.apparently I missed it, one post, the others must have been deleted. Do you have the posts in question or are you just doing what you always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:11 PM, Typhoon Tip said: 10-day Canadian temp anomaly has virtually the entire Canadian shield negative, and some areas in south-central approaching extreme values. I've seen this product for years and that's quite rare to have that much mass on the negative side; and the magnitude notwithstanding. If this is your source region you are getting very cold. Question becomes just how zonal the flow is ..... It would be nice to get some true arctic air down here for once, instead of that general nuisance cold. People around here have had it too easy with the winters as far as temperatures go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:08 PM, toronto blizzard said: EC ensembles continue to improve towards the end of the run. Nice -NAO developing with troughing over the lakes.Hopefully they are similar now to the GEFS which have been excellent since October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:11 PM, Typhoon Tip said: 10-day Canadian temp anomaly has virtually the entire Canadian shield negative, and some areas in south-central approaching extreme values. I've seen this product for years and that's quite rare to have that much mass on the negative side; and the magnitude notwithstanding. If this is your source region you are getting very cold. Question becomes just how zonal the flow is ..... Our much heralded and talked about icestorm across the interior cordillera looks like it may come to fruition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:18 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Our much heralded and talked about icestorm across the interior cordillera looks like it may come to fruition Well the back-ground canvas of having -EPO/+NAO would raise that probability some, but that of course is no guarantee. Not everyone in a tornado watch gets a twister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:16 PM, Ginxy said: apparently I missed it, one post, the others must have been deleted. Do you have the posts in question or are you just doing what you always do.?? Why the hostility?I hope those guys seriously don't talk about a thaw...everything looks good and has been going good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:22 PM, Typhoon Tip said: Well the back-ground canvas of having -EPO/+NAO would raise that probability some, but that of course is not guarantee. Yes i can see you in front of the large naked canvas with paint brush in hand..dabbling broadbrush strokes of ice accreting on all surfaces until power grid becomes maimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Euro ensembles get a bit colder near the end of their run. Hopefully we avoid any major mild stretches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:18 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Our much heralded and talked about icestorm across the interior cordillera looks like it may come to fruition Yeah this is exactly the pattern that produces ice. Lots of fresh cold lurking and oozing down, meanwhile the lack of blocking in the Atlantic allows these storms to run right up into the cold dome. Over-running and CAD galore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:11 PM, Typhoon Tip said: 10-day Canadian temp anomaly has virtually the entire Canadian shield negative, and some areas in south-central approaching extreme values. I've seen this product for years and that's quite rare to have that much mass on the negative side; and the magnitude notwithstanding. If this is your source region you are getting very cold. Question becomes just how zonal the flow is ..... Our arguably most reliable indicator that has not been used enough lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Why in heavens name do people actually root on power failures in winter...wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:23 PM, powderfreak said: ?? Why the hostility?hostility? No just was wondering why one post made by Keith LI all of a sudden was made into a major weenie thing. I don't see anyone else saying anything, why would you post that? Just trying to keep it real, seems some overly sensitive folks lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:27 PM, weathafella said: Why in heavens name do people actually root on power failures in winter...wtf?its absolute absurd, suffering is great, not cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:25 PM, powderfreak said: Yeah this is exactly the pattern that produces ice. Lots of fresh cold lurking and oozing down, meanwhile the lack of blocking in the Atlantic allows these storms to run right up into the cold dome. Over-running and CAD galore. We can just hope this look holds a few more runs.. Would be nice to put down a few inches first ..then let the zr glaze and daze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:25 PM, ORH_wxman said: Euro ensembles get a bit colder near the end of their run. Hopefully we avoid any major mild stretches. Hopefully the Gefs have led the way once again...Still need a few more days to make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:24 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Yes i can see you in front of the large naked canvas with paint brush in hand..dabbling broadbrush strokes of ice accreting on all surfaces until power grid becomes maimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:25 PM, powderfreak said: Yeah this is exactly the pattern that produces ice. Lots of fresh cold lurking and oozing down, meanwhile the lack of blocking in the Atlantic allows these storms to run right up into the cold dome. Over-running and CAD galore. And not to be self-promoting but I have been bringing this up for a month, that these sort of tele layouts would lend to that. We've actually been lucky ... well, unlucky depending on one's point of view. That 32.3 rain event the other day just needed about a 6 hour sooner onset timing and we would have had .3" glazing event. Just dodged a bullet there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:34 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Yes..I can see it now..Sort of like a weenie that curves to the right a bit..Paint..Tippy paintLol,damn look at that huge WSW area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Hey ... you wanted a painting, I gave you a painting. Although, I'm not sure what is motivating your creepy interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:37 PM, Ginxy said: Lol,damn look at that huge WSW area You could drive for two days inside the bear-cage on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:28 PM, Ginxy said: Just trying to keep it real, seems some overly sensitive folks lately. everyone is trying to keep it real, nothing is too serious. Just discuss all possibilities both warm and cold. Looks like a pattern ripe for the ol' wintery mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolMike Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Is it me or did the CPC NAO forecast undergo huge changes in the last three days? I think I looked this weekend and now I see a totally different graph. Edit to add: I didn't follow the weather with my usual fervor this weekend but I was sure I saw a +1-+2 SD NAO forecast sometime this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 euro ens still seem to have a bit of mild period with height rises across the CONUS but do also show some troughing returning to the GL / NE toward the end of the run. that said, the PAC region gets a bit less discernible too. still lots of bitter air showing up, especially in W Canada from day 11-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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