FLweather Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 GFS is ridiculously cold after this storm.... Next weekend espically! Low teens and single digits for this area for lows and struggling to make into the 20s durring the day.... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 GFS is ridiculously cold after this storm.... Next weekend espically! Low teens and single digits for this area for lows and struggling to make into the 20s durring the day.... lol. This just seems impossible given climo. Sent from my SCH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 GFS is ridiculously cold after this storm.... Next weekend espically! Low teens and single digits for this area for lows and struggling to make into the 20s durring the day.... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This just seems impossible given climo. Sent from my SCH-L710 . Climo is just averages. Anything can happen, and it's not like its 15 days out! Could be legit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This just seems impossible given climo. Sent from my SCH-L710 It's probably not likely, but if we have snow and ice on the ground (as the GFS predicts), it could very well happen. Single Digits happen here, though it's been awhile. Anyways, the Euro is rolling. Will it be Dr. No or Dr. Yes this afternoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaleighWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 GFS cold is entirely because of modeled snow pack. GEFS ens members pretty supportive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 It's probably not likely, but if we have snow and ice on the ground (as the GFS predicts), it could very well happen. Single Digits happen here, though it's been awhile. Anyways, the Euro is rolling. Will it be Dr. No or Dr. Yes this afternoon? Right. I remember still to this day that right after Jan25 2000 that RDU got down to 0 the night after the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Wow, is this really going to happen? I know things are for real when RaleighWx is here. Just saw the GFS update on facebook from WxSouth. Looks lie snow for most of NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This just seems impossible given climo. Sent from my SCH-L710 It's probably not likely, but if we have snow and ice on the ground (as the GFS predicts), it could very well happen. Single Digits happen here, though it's been awhile. Anyways, the Euro is rolling. Will it be Dr. No or Dr. Yes this afternoon? I know they happen. I know that 20 below is possible along the TN/MS border but When's the last time any of us (outside the mountains) had single digits by Dec 1st? Sent from my SCH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Right. I remember still to this day that right after Jan25 2000 that RDU got down to 0 the night after the storm. Of course that was January. it would be quite a feat to get <10 anywhere in the piedmont in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Of course that was January. it would be quite a feat to get <10 anywhere in the piedmont in November. I know I realize that. But I think thats about the last time its gotten that cold around here atleast single digits wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This just seems impossible given climo. Sent from my SCH-L710 It's probably not likely, but if we have snow and ice on the ground (as the GFS predicts), it could very well happen. Single Digits happen here, though it's been awhile. Anyways, the Euro is rolling. Will it be Dr. No or Dr. Yes this afternoon? I know they happen. I know that 20 below is possible along the TN/MS border but When's the last time any of us (outside the mountains) had single digits by Dec 1st? Sent from my SCH-L710 using Tapatalk My last single digit reading was in January 2011 and that was 6 in January with snow cover. Granted, that was also well within the confines of the Memphis heat island. Sent from my SCH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I know they happen. I know that 20 below is possible along the TN/MS border but When's the last time any of us (outside the mountains) had single digits by Dec 1st? Sent from my SCH-L710 When is the last time we had a substantial snowpack down in the area by December 1st? I guess November 19, 2000, but that wasn't very substantial. That's the main driving force behind the single digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 How does the Euro look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Of course that was January. it would be quite a feat to get <10 anywhere in the piedmont in November. That would be extreme. The last time it happened over a holiday, all the pterodactyls were grounded and everyone had to go to grandma's house by mammoth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I was looking back at the climate records for KGSO and it looks like the last time KGSO got down into the single digits was January 2005. That's a long time and probably atypical, for that matter. It did get down close a few times, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Looks like Euro is going to hold with a phased solution, maybe even stronger than the 0z. Either the GFS Is really bad or really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I was looking back at the climate records for KGSO and it looks like the last time KGSO got down into the single digits was January 2005. That's a long time and probably atypical, for that matter. It did get down close a few times, though. It used to happen with much more regularity. Below zero was rare, but a single digit night or two in a winter was a pretty normal occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Euro is going way inland, App's runner, this is at hour 84, this is the Euro's wheelhouse, it's hard to believe how far apart these models are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I know they happen. I know that 20 below is possible along the TN/MS border but When's the last time any of us (outside the mountains) had single digits by Dec 1st? Sent from my SCH-L710 When is the last time we had a substantial snowpack down in the area by December 1st? I guess November 19, 2000, but that wasn't very substantial. That's the main driving force behind the single digits. I can't remember even a single event in our area of more than 3 inches prior to Dec 20th or so. I normally do not even follow the models until December. I not saying it's not possible but it just seems like this is already on the extreme end of things. Sent from my SCH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 12z Euro: sfc low further north than gfs and 0z Euro. Very little wintry with that setup. Let's see if upper low keeps less impressive trend of 0z Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Euro is going way inland, App's runner, this is at hour 84, this is the Euro's wheelhouse, it's hard to believe how far apart these models are. I'm on my phone. Do you mind telling me what this looks like for West TN? Sent from my SCH-L710 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 How can they be so different? GFS won the last battle a few weeks ago when it said no and the Euro caved to it. Now the GFS is honking. Hope the Euro caves to it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 How can they be so different? GFS won the last battle a few weeks ago when it said no and the Euro caved to it. Now the GFS is honking. Hope the Euro caves to it again. Well, the Euro was honking yesterday while the GFS was saying no and now we've flipped the roles, so who knows? It used to happen with much more regularity. Below zero was rare, but a single digit night or two in a winter was a pretty normal occurrence. It seems like even when I was younger in the 1990s it wasn't all that unusual. --------------------------------------- The Euro brings a strong surface low right up I-85. Okay. That's new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 12z Euro: sfc low further north than gfs and 0z Euro. Very little wintry with that setup. Let's see if upper low keeps less impressive trend of 0z Euro. Only 1"+ snow with upper low mainly mountains far NE AL to far W NC and further west in E TN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'm on my phone. Do you mind telling me what this looks like for West TN? Sent from my SCH-L710 Light backside snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Light snow for NC mainly a cold chasing rain scenario on the euro Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well, the Euro was honking yesterday while the GFS was saying no and now we've flipped the roles, so who knows? It seems like even when I was younger in the 1990s it wasn't all that unusual. --------------------------------------- The Euro brings a strong surface low right up I-85. Okay. That's new. A lot of back and forth. Makes me think this thing is really dynamic and could go either way. So, if the keep switching places, how do we keep score of who is right and wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 995 just north of Raleigh at 96hrs, gonna be tough to get snow with that track outside of the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Well, the Euro was honking yesterday while the GFS was saying no and now we've flipped the roles, so who knows? It seems like even when I was younger in the 1990s it wasn't all that unusual. By the way. My hopefully funny answer to Wow about it being rare to go below 10º here in November was not that far off. The record November low for the past 84 years for GBO/WS/HP is exactly 10º. Who knows when was the last time it went below 10º. I may have been right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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