Damage In Tolland Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 With the ensembles over the last day being west of a lot of the op runs that is a flag, But like you said, We are an eternity away from the event, The more realistic time frame i feel is to wait until Sunday at the earliest, But with all the public hype out there, Besides it being a major holiday, It almost makes it impossible to hold back folks excitement when you have professionals in the business putting the hype wheel in motionLast night the ens were either matching or even a bit east of the op runs from what we read on here. Hopefully that theme continues today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 With the ensembles over the last day being west of a lot of the op runs that is a flag, But like you said, We are an eternity away from the event, The more realistic time frame i feel is to wait until Sunday at the earliest, But with all the public hype out there, Besides it being a major holiday, It almost makes it impossible to hold back folks excitement when you have professionals in the business putting the hype wheel in motion I'm figuring it will be a big event, but just because we'll be in Illinois next week, and our only thoughts will be about whether the neighbor can get to our house and check on the cats. I've got a long history of being in the wrong place for large November snowfalls. Why not one more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well the 12z GFS looks like its going be east of 0z and 06z this run, Maybe a scraper, Just goes to show you that we really have to wait on this threat being over 120 hrs out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'm figuring it will be a big event, but just because we'll be in Illinois next week, and our only thoughts will be about whether the neighbor can get to our house and check on the cats. I've got a long history of being in the wrong place for large November snowfalls. Why not one more? I hope your streak continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Scraper...prob advisory snows for E MA...just another solution out of many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Another GFS run, another solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Scraper...prob advisory snows for E MA...just another solution out of many. Closes off and gets tugged back NW but to late for many except DE Maine this run, Colder run though this time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 how are the other models looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Another GFS run, another solution. And i am sure we are not finished with them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Last night the ens were either matching or even a bit east of the op runs from what we read on here. Hopefully that theme continues today. Ensembles will always limit the spread and allow you to see how and why models are doing what they are doing. I only discussed the GFS op because it had an iteresting thermo profile and was just digging into why it was showing it, but it was just another one of a plethora of solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 And i am sure we are not finished with them as well Hell no. Honestly we probably really won't know until like 00z Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well the 12z GFS looks like its going be east of 0z and 06z this run, Maybe a scraper, Just goes to show you that we really have to wait on this threat being over 120 hrs out Southern stream is slower to eject, allowing a later phase, colder solution. Plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 how are the other models looking? GFS is the 1st one out at 12z other then the Nam, Over 120hrs+ still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Southern stream is slower to eject, allowing a later phase, colder solution. Plausible. It is, But we will need that to happen a little sooner to keep it tucked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Back to the arctic outbreak....12z NAM gets a bit colder than the 12z GFS...both at 850mb and the surface. However, even the "warmer" GFS is getting 850mb temps between -17C and -18C on Sunday for most of SNE. It still looks like a close call on the front coming in soon enough to break record low maxes on Sunday...esp for eastern areas. Interestingly, the 12z MET MOS is going very cold for Sunday night. Colder than I would have expected. Its near or at record lows for all stations. We'll have to see if that is a harbingor or just a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Back to the arctic outbreak....12z NAM gets a bit colder than the 12z GFS...both at 850mb and the surface. However, even the "warmer" GFS is getting 850mb temps between -17C and -18C on Sunday for most of SNE. It still looks like a close call on the front coming in soon enough to break record low maxes on Sunday...esp for eastern areas. Interestingly, the 12z MET MOS is going very cold for Sunday night. Colder than I would have expected. Its near or at record lows for all stations. We'll have to see if that is a harbingor or just a fluke. can you get a tabular output of the MET MOS by station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 can you get a tabular output of the MET MOS by station? http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/forecast/text/state/MA.NAM.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Lol. Either way GFS is still pretty snowy for eastern areas given the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 http://www.nws.noaa.gov/mdl/forecast/text/state/MA.NAM.htm Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Back to the arctic outbreak....12z NAM gets a bit colder than the 12z GFS...both at 850mb and the surface. However, even the "warmer" GFS is getting 850mb temps between -17C and -18C on Sunday for most of SNE. It still looks like a close call on the front coming in soon enough to break record low maxes on Sunday...esp for eastern areas. Interestingly, the 12z MET MOS is going very cold for Sunday night. Colder than I would have expected. Its near or at record lows for all stations. We'll have to see if that is a harbingor or just a fluke. 12z NAM is like -19C at 850 for OKX which is pretty close to a record for the time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 interesting that my old hometown in McKinney has a WSW before here.. hopefully a good sign for next week. Winter Storm Watch in effect from Sunday morning throughMonday morning...The National Weather Service in Fort Worth has issued a WinterStorm Watch... which is in effect from Sunday morning throughMonday morning.* Timing... Sunday morning through midday Monday.* Main impact... sleet and ice accumulations on Sunday into Mondaymay severely impact travel on all area roads and bridges anddisrupt air travel into Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 How are the winds looking for Monday morning? We have a turkey trot going on at school, and the temps will be bad enough. 900 kids frozen to the road... fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Lol. Either way GFS is still pretty snowy for eastern areas given the date. Said it a few hours ago...I'm not buying the big wrapped up west solutions. Doesn't fit with this pattern which has shown almost every event to dwindle as we approach and a total lack of major coastals. I'm not saying THIS run of the GFS is right but I'd favor a scraper or OTS over anything more robust but who knows...I'm speaking mainly off of the last few weeks/months than staring at every model run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 12z NAM is like -19C at 850 for OKX which is pretty close to a record for the time of year. Wow. What does that translate to for surface temps in various locales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 12z NAM continued the 32F isotherm march right through the waters SE of the Cape. You know it's dam cold when it does that in late November during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Wow. What does that translate to for surface temps in various locales? Easily stuck in the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 12z NAM continued the 32F isotherm march right through the waters SE of the Cape. You know it's dam cold when it does that in late November during the day. I'm thinking the MAV guidance of 34F on Sunday afternoon for BOS is a safe Vegas play to bet the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 12z NAM continued the 32F isotherm march right through the waters SE of the Cape. You know it's dam cold when it does that in late November during the day. I'm thinking the MAV guidance of 34F on Sunday afternoon for BOS is a safe Vegas play to bet the under. Same for the 20 overnight low Sunday to Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Still like the 1st week of Dec for a siggy event, 5th is my favorite date............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 the nam tends to be too cold at this range and the gfs and euro are in good agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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