N. OF PIKE Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 50mph gusts are pretty damn impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BOS will likely make teens tomorrow night I'll try to dig it up, but it may be one of the earliest in many years. Off the top of my head, maybe 2000 or 2002, 2004 may have done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Love this discussion by BTV... brutish, lol. Going to be fun riding the chairlift to the summit in 40-60mph winds and an ambient temperature near zero at the summit. Wonder if we can hit -20F wind chills tomorrow. CONDITIONS BY SUNRISE SUNDAY ACTUALLY QUITEBRUTISH WITH TEMPERATURES FROM 8 TO 18 ABOVE ALONG WITH WINDSGUSTING FROM 30 TO 40 MPH.&&.SHORT TERM /6 AM SUNDAY MORNING THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT/...AS OF 319 PM EST SATURDAY...THEN JUST A ROUGH DAY ON SUNDAY ASSTRONG POST-FRONTAL NORTHWESTERLY FLOW CONTINUES ACROSS THE AREAAND TEMPERATURES HOLD MORE OR LESS STEADY FROM THE MID TEENS TOTHE LOWER 20S. THIS WILL LIKELY BE THE COLDEST DAY SINCE MID-FEBRUARY AND WITH THE WINDS IT WILL FEEL LIKE MID-WINTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BOS will likely make teens tomorrow night I'll try to dig it up, but it may be one of the earliest in many years. Off the top of my head, maybe 2000 or 2002, 2004 may have done so. Last 13 years worth of data for min temps lower than 20. Only twice in November, and the long term average is about 12/11. 2000 Mar 18 Nov 24 2502001 Mar 2 Feb 5 3392002 Mar 22 Nov 28 2502003 Mar 14 Dec 2 2622004 Feb 17 Dec 15 3012005 Mar 10 Dec 8 2722006 Mar 1 Jan 16 3202007 Mar 9 Dec 1 2662008 Feb 29 Dec 8 2822009 Mar 4 Dec 17 2872010 Feb 7 Dec 9 3042011 Mar 4 Dec 19 2892012 Feb 13 Jan 2 3232013 Feb 18 Miss - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Man what a weenie LR all across the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Last 13 years worth of data for min temps lower than 20. Only twice in November, and the long term average is about 12/11. 2000 Mar 18 Nov 24 2502001 Mar 2 Feb 5 3392002 Mar 22 Nov 28 2502003 Mar 14 Dec 2 2622004 Feb 17 Dec 15 3012005 Mar 10 Dec 8 2722006 Mar 1 Jan 16 3202007 Mar 9 Dec 1 2662008 Feb 29 Dec 8 2822009 Mar 4 Dec 17 2872010 Feb 7 Dec 9 3042011 Mar 4 Dec 19 2892012 Feb 13 Jan 2 3232013 Feb 18 Miss - There is a common denominator there with that limited data , would like to see that from say 1950 on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Last 13 years worth of data for min temps lower than 20. Only twice in November, and the long term average is about 12/11. 2000 Mar 18 Nov 24 2502001 Mar 2 Feb 5 3392002 Mar 22 Nov 28 2502003 Mar 14 Dec 2 2622004 Feb 17 Dec 15 3012005 Mar 10 Dec 8 2722006 Mar 1 Jan 16 3202007 Mar 9 Dec 1 2662008 Feb 29 Dec 8 2822009 Mar 4 Dec 17 2872010 Feb 7 Dec 9 3042011 Mar 4 Dec 19 2892012 Feb 13 Jan 2 3232013 Feb 18 Miss - Thanks Chris. So there is 2000 and 2002. I hope this winter behaves similar to that, despite kind of getting porked relatively speaking in '00-'01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 There is a common denominator there with that limited data , would like to see that from say 1950 on Got it for all Novembers in Boston Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Lowest Min Temperature Missing Count 1 1938 12 0 2 1936 13 0 3 1989 15 0 - 1949 15 0 5 1987 16 0 - 1951 16 0 7 2000 17 0 - 1978 17 0 - 1972 17 0 - 1957 17 0 - 1940 17 0 12 1993 18 0 - 1958 18 0 14 2002 19 0 - 1986 19 0 16 1996 20 0 - 1956 20 0 - 1942 20 0 19 2005 21 0 - 1967 21 0 - 1939 21 0 22 2008 22 0 - 2007 22 0 - 1997 22 0 - 1994 22 0 - 1969 22 0 - 1959 22 0 - 1955 22 0 29 1995 23 0 - 1976 23 0 - 1974 23 0 - 1937 23 0 33 2004 24 0 - 1971 24 0 - 1964 24 0 - 1943 24 0 37 1992 25 0 - 1985 25 0 - 1984 25 0 - 1982 25 0 - 1970 25 0 - 1947 25 0 - 1945 25 0 44 1981 26 0 - 1980 26 0 - 1965 26 0 - 1941 26 0 48 2003 27 0 - 1999 27 0 - 1966 27 0 - 1962 27 0 - 1961 27 0 - 1950 27 0 - 1946 27 0 55 2010 28 0 - 1991 28 0 - 1990 28 0 - 1988 28 0 - 1983 28 0 - 1960 28 0 - 1954 28 0 - 1952 28 0 - 1948 28 0 64 2001 29 0 - 1979 29 0 - 1977 29 0 - 1944 29 0 68 2012 30 0 - 1973 30 0 - 1963 30 0 - 1953 30 0 72 2011 31 0 - 1998 31 0 74 2006 32 0 - 1968 32 0 76 1975 33 0 77 2009 35 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 17 is possible. 1951 and 1987 within reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 There is a common denominator there with that limited data , would like to see that from say 1950 on I ran the data from 1936, that's the 12/11 average first date for teens min temps. I just posted the last 13 years worth to keep the post short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 lets see what the 18z gfs brings today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Looks like up here the record lows for tomorrow are 2F at BTV and then below zero at the sites outside of the Champlain Valley. Doubt we get those records, but record low maxes are all 19-20F which may have a shot depending on how warm it is at midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I ran the data from 1936, that's the 12/11 average first date for teens min temps. I just posted the last 13 years worth to keep the post short. Boston is a heat island BDL has two single digit days Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Lowest Min Temperature Missing Count 1 1989 1 0 2 1986 9 0 3 1951 10 0 4 2000 11 0 5 2002 12 0 - 1995 12 0 - 1993 12 0 - 1972 12 0 - 1958 12 0 - 1956 12 0 - 1949 12 1 12 2005 13 0 - 1987 13 0 - 1978 13 0 - 1976 13 0 - 1957 13 0 17 1974 14 0 - 1969 14 0 - 1964 14 0 20 1982 15 0 - 1960 15 0 22 1996 16 3 - 1967 16 0 24 1997 17 0 25 2008 18 0 - 2004 18 0 - 2001 18 0 - 1994 18 0 - 1984 18 0 - 1980 18 0 - 1970 18 0 - 1962 18 0 - 1959 18 0 - 1955 18 0 - 1952 18 0 - 1950 18 0 37 2007 19 0 - 2003 19 0 - 1992 19 0 - 1973 19 0 - 1966 19 0 42 2012 20 0 - 1988 20 0 - 1965 20 0 45 1991 21 0 - 1981 21 0 - 1971 21 0 - 1961 21 0 49 2010 22 0 - 1998 22 0 - 1968 22 0 - 1954 22 0 53 2011 23 0 - 2006 23 0 - 1983 23 0 - 1979 23 0 - 1977 23 0 58 1990 24 0 - 1985 24 0 - 1963 24 0 61 1999 25 0 62 2009 26 0 - 1975 26 0 64 1953 27 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BOS has really built up what is known as the South Boston waterfront. That's more SW of Logan and a continued UHI component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BOX has low 30s for BOS tomorrow, but I think they will struggle for 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Love the patchwork of Wind Advisories across New England. SW CT going to have advisory winds while NE CT Doesnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 True. $100 donation last drive plus $$ to Allen for access should mean something. Besides, we have 2 Tempu-Pedics already. LOL. Appears to be mid-winteresque here at the Pit. Tonight: Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers this evening... Then a chance of flurries after midnight. Colder with lows around 16. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of snow 30 percent. Sunday: Mostly sunny and blustery. Much colder. Near steady temperature around 19. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Sunday Night: Mostly clear and blustery. Cold with lows around 7 above. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph... Diminishing to 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph after midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Nice to see the NCEP site go down. Perhaps they're trying to hide the 18z GFS. Love the patchwork of Wind Advisories across New England. SW CT going to have advisory winds while NE CT Doesnt? It was just posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Wind advisory in effect from 7 AM sunday to 1 AM EST monday...the National Weather Service in taunton has issued a windadvisory, which is in effect from 7 AM sunday to 1 AM ESTmonday.* location, all of massachusetts, all of rhode island, northernconnecticut, as well as cheshire and hillsborough counties innew hampshire.* winds, northwest 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 45 mph.* timing, winds will increase sunday morning, with the strongestwinds from late morning into sunday evening.* impacts, winds may bring down large tree branches and causeisolated power outages.precautionary/preparedness actions...a wind advisory is issued when sustained winds are forecast to be31 to 39 mph or gusts will range between 46 and 57 mph. windsthis strong are capable of downing small tree limbs andbranches, possibly causing isolated power outages. driving canalso be difficult, especially for high profile vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Telling people how cold its gonna be tomorrow they don't even believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 The disconnect between the bolded below is kind of funny......what am I missing??? WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM SUNDAY TO 1 AM EST MONDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN TAUNTON HAS ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 7 AM SUNDAY TO 1 AM EST MONDAY. *LOCATION...ALL OF MASSACHUSETTS...ALL OF RHODE ISLAND...NORTHERN CONNECTICUT...AS WELL AS CHESHIRE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. * WINDS...NORTHWEST 15 TO 25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH. * TIMING...WINDS WILL INCREASE SUNDAY MORNING...WITH THE STRONGEST WINDS FROM LATE MORNING INTO SUNDAY EVENING. * IMPACTS...WINDS MAY BRING DOWN LARGE TREE BRANCHES AND CAUSE ISOLATED POWER OUTAGES. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WIND ADVISORY IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS ARE FORECAST TO BE 31 TO 39 MPH OR GUSTS WILL RANGE BETWEEN 46 AND 57 MPH. WINDS THIS STRONG ARE CAPABLE OF DOWNING SMALL TREE LIMBS AND BRANCHES...POSSIBLY CAUSING ISOLATED POWER OUTAGES. DRIVING CAN ALSO BE DIFFICULT...ESPECIALLY FOR HIGH PROFILE VEHICLES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Meanwhile, mindblowing differences still at hr 78 of 18z GFS vs hr 84 of the 12z euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This is the February 2013 syndrome. Gfs until very close in doesn't like wound up systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This is the February 2013 syndrome. Gfs until very close in doesn't like wound up systems. At some point guidance will collapse towards one or the other solution....perhaps not entirely...but something will give. Amazing battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 This is the February 2013 syndrome. Gfs until very close in doesn't like wound up systems. I still wonder about the wound up solutions. I've used the analogy before....having the nogaps on your side..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Looks like some good stuff happening just west of Pete/me and just south of Mitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 BOX has low 30s for BOS tomorrow, but I think they will struggle for 27. It's a tough forecast based on how the grids work. High temps are between 12 and 01z, while lows are 00-13z. So there isn't really room in the grids to make a forecast of a midnight high temp with just max and min T. You have to manually work the hourly temps to show that trends. I just went and massaged our grids with the NAM12 2 m temps. That way my "high" and "low" for the day both occur right around 12z based on how our grids work. At least in this way the P&C will show "highs" in the mid 20s during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 It's a tough forecast based on how the grids work. High temps are between 12 and 01z, while lows are 00-13z. So there isn't really room in the grids to make a forecast of a midnight high temp with just max and min T. You have to manually work the hourly temps to show that trends. I just went and massaged our grids with the NAM12 2 m temps. That way my "high" and "low" for the day both occur right around 12z based on how our grids work. At least in this way the P&C will show "highs" in the mid 20s during the day. Well I mean the zone forecasts. Couldn't they just say near steady temps in the upper 20s? They had upper 20s this morning in the zones, but looks like they ripped off MOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Looks like some good stuff happening just west of Pete/me and just south of Mitch. Just had a band of snow showers blow through. No biggie. Light dusting blowing around when it was coming through. 31.1* and dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Nice to see Ryan put snow squalls in his forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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