powderfreak Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 What a way to live, party on Garth. Probably a climo track for Nov. Good thing I have no snow to melt, oh sorry dude. lol, it's not about living. In weather, the most likely outcome is usually the least exciting. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 It's going to be really difficult to really justify which type of track or which model at this stage will be closer to reality. Until the models come into better agreement or we strong consensus within a model, a great deal will depend on the strength of the two key features as well as the speed of these two features. Considering, however, the mid-level low cutting across the deep south is of cut-off decent, you would have to think that the model showing the slower timing/movement of the southern energy (it had been the Euro but not sure if that's still true with the 12z run as I can't see it yet) so perhaps the solutions being given by the Euro could hold a bit more merit. given what has been posted regarding the track of the 12z Euro I would think a further inland track would vastly depend on how strongly negatively tilted the northern stream becomes and when it would begin to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'll tell everyone right now that the nuances of this current ECMWF run, esp. with regard to precise track, will not verify. It's either going over se MA or NYS. My money is on the former, through se MA.......close enough to ensure 97.5-100% rain for everyone that matters within the precip. field, yet close enough to maintain some level of interest for distant interior elevations that will undoubtedly ending up smoking cirrus in blue-ball land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 look at those squalls just SE of Watertown, NY on a line to NW of Syracuse. Clouding up now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I don't see this thing going on such a SSW/NNE track thru CNE/NNE I also don't think Euro has a great handle on things with all the SW's in the Polar Jet. Don't get me wrong, it very well may (but) I wouldn't be shock'd to see it have an entirely different solution tonite or tomm nite at least WRT to Rain to Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'll tell everyone right now that the nuances of this current ECMWF run, esp. with regard to precise track, will not verify. It's either going over se MA or NYS. My money is on the former, through se MA.......close enough to ensure 97.5-100% rain for everyone that matters within the precip. field, yet close enough to maintain some level of interest for distant interior elevations that will undoubtedly ending up smoking cirrus in blue-ball land. Yes, LP is not going to track over the mtn peaks, Its going to be either east or west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I want qpf. Rainfall is lacking and we need it. Also, a trend in that direction has already subtly begun. So I'm cautiously optimistic that we get a good rainer at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I don't see this thing going on such a SSW/NNE track thru CNE/NNE I also don't think Euro has a great handle on things with all the SW's in the Polar Jet. Don't get me wrong, it very well may (but) I wouldn't be shock'd to see it have an entirely different solution tonite or tomm nite at least WRT to Rain to Montreal. This run is probably entirely meteorologically sound, but this is when the regional climatology needs to be applied. How often do we see LPs track over the 1000' ORH airport? Unless the synopitcs of the system are so overwhelmingly potent, such as 3/93, we hardly ever see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 lol, it's not about living. In weather, the most likely outcome is usually the least exciting. It is what it is. Huh? so the most likely scenario when a storm approaches is nothing happens? Really, we are not discussing daily weather but a juiced up GOM Miller A type storm coming up the coast, so you are saying the most likely scenario with those setups is nothing exciting happens? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 do you even have to ask? Kevin knows alot about meteo in sne, wish he'd show it more. Wrong and misinforming info act all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Kevin may be correct re over the cape when all is said and done. Get the plows handy mpm and powder. Well, pf any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 nice day for a Hike MaineJayHawk Mt. Washington Summit Forecast for Tommorrow In the clouds W/ snow showers likely Highs; Falling to around 15 Below Windchills; falling to -55 to -65 F Winds; NW 70-90 increasing to 80 to 100 W higher Gusts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Kevin knows alot about meteo in sne, wish he'd show it more. Wrong and misinforming info act all the time He posted that a CC runner with rain and interior snow is more likely than an Apps runner with the current setup. Maybe you missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 lol at the semantics of track. do what ya need to do to "cope" with a driving rain storm as opposed to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 When Ray is posting, winter is near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Who the fuk cares where it tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 ya sometimes Ginxy I have no idea why people think the least excitable solution is most likely. Its really just fear based forecasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Huh? so the most likely scenario when a storm approaches is nothing happens? Really, we are not discussing daily weather but a juiced up GOM Miller A type storm coming up the coast, so you are saying the most likely scenario with those setups is nothing exciting happens? Wow I hate miller a's because they always screw me by being too far east.......hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 He posted that a CC runner with rain and interior snow is more likely than an Apps runner with the current setup. Maybe you missed it.Saw that most recent one. All the red flags regarding problems with the setup seem to be coming to modeled fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Yes, LP is not going to track over the mtn peaks, Its going to be either east or west Honestly, as rusty as I am within this arena, what I take from this run is that the storm is going to track close enough to be a major factor for us. This winter's inaugural significant snow event was never likely to come from the said system in question here on the cp because the margin for error is so slim; the n ORH hill, Monadnocks, and Berkshires should pay close attention. Even lower elevations throughout cne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Who the fuk cares where it tracks?Temperature of the rain as it falls. It could be chillier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Scott lol can u explain "who the fuk cares' where it tracks" . You seem Angry we know it's not snowing in Dorchester but there are people In CNE/NNE who should be on alert. You must have very high confidence in rain to montreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Kevin knows alot about meteo in sne, wish he'd show it more. Wrong and misinforming info act all the timeDude cut the BS, they've forced me to post their way or I get banned. I have posted 10 different ways why I think the track will be either over SE mass or farther east and have ruled out snow . So Wtf is the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 can u expain this we know it's not snowing in Dorchester but there are people In CNE/NNE who should be on alert, why does that bother you Knowing Scott, there was a facetious undertone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 can u expain this we know it's not snowing in Dorchester but there are people In CNE/NNE who should be on alert, why does that bother you I don't live in Dorchester and nobody cares about a restaurant at 4k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Nice les plumes forming, Areas there are going to clean up over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 euro has a system nearby arond 12/3 that would be the next to track, I know others have mentioned 12/4-12/5 timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Knowing Scott, there was a facetious undertone. The villages of 500 people need to know what the wx will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 ya sometimes Ginxy I have no idea why people think the least excitable solution is most likely. Its really just fear based forecasting lol the op euro has the support of its ensembles so its hard to "toss" the solution as fear based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 My point is why has this become an insane asylum of whether a low tracks over the Cape or ORH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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