Storm next weekend has better teleconnector support than this misery ever did

[ORH_wxman]

seeing that from the 84 hr nam makes me feel better that the euro is wrong. LOL.

Well there is only so much room for an amped up solution with the monster ridge being as far east as it is. It would take a perfect phase to get it west of the Euro...I would lean further east at this point.

[leesun]

Further east like the GFS or like the GGEM?

Well there is only so much room for an amped up solution with the monster ridge being as far east as it is. It would take a perfect phase to get it west of the Euro...I would lean further east at this point.

[CCPSUSuperstorm2010]

I would go with a storm track of 35n/75w and 41n/69w

[Tropopause_Fold]

Well there is only so much room for an amped up solution with the monster ridge being as far east as it is. It would take a perfect phase to get it west of the Euro...I would lean further east at this point.

yeah. i agree given the current predicted upper air configuration...tough to see it going any further west than what the ec shows without the 5h pattern adjusting further.

i mentioned earlier today that the one "alarm" i have is seeing this modeled as such a remarkable bomb at this time frame. it's more anecdotal than anything but this is kind of one of those cases where i would actually pull the old "how often do we see this only to see it fail" kind of thinking.

[ROOSTA]

SHOWTIME!

[Cold Miser]

SHOWTIME!

The introduction of Will on the radio show. He's from "New England, the place we love to hate"

WTF is that supposed to mean?

[weatherwiz]

The introduction of Will on the radio show. He's from "New England, the place we love to hate"

WTF is that supposed to mean?

mid-Atlantic folks hate us

[DomNH]

mid-Atlantic folks hate us

Will should start going off about the inverted trough.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Nothing says Christmas like shopping at target at 1040 and having to eat one of their frisbee pizzas for dinner.

Nam to me is certainly well east of Ec. Doesnt mean it's the gfs though.

I'm with Phil most of the time when we see curl bombs that bleed east they are phantoms

[New England Storm]

yeah. i agree given the current predicted upper air configuration...tough to see it going any further west than what the ec shows without the 5h pattern adjusting further.

i mentioned earlier today that the one "alarm" i have is seeing this modeled as such a remarkable bomb at this time frame. it's more anecdotal than anything but this is kind of one of those cases where i would actually pull the old "how often do we see this only to see it fail" kind of thinking.

Glad to see that I am not the only who feels uneasy about this.

[weatherwiz]

at the McNabb/Redskins reference

[NorEastermass128]

Nothing says Christmas like shopping at target at 1040 and having to eat one of their frisbee pizzas for dinner.

Nam to me is certainly well east of Ec. Doesnt mean it's the gfs though.

I'm with Phil most of the time when we see curl bombs that bleed east they are phantoms

Yeah..just got a feeling this one trends east to become a scraper / OTS solution. I'd be more worried about something that fails to develop / OTS than a curled up bomb tucked inside Block Island.

[ROOSTA]

The introduction of Will on the radio show. He's from "New England, the place we love to hate"

WTF is that supposed to mean?

Over the years big feuds over snowstorms. Mention Climo in the main model thread you will be trolled, lambasted. They're simply jealous!

[NorEastermass128]

Over the years big feuds over snowstorms. Mention Climo in the main model thread you will be trolled, lambasted. They're simply jealous!

Most said they would be happy not to see another KU for 10 years after their luck last winter.

[CCPSUSuperstorm2010]

Yeah, I don't think this will be an inland track like the EURO shows, inland meaning that it goes to the southwest of Cape COd, MA. I think this takes a track just east of the B/M.

[SnowMan]

Yeah, I don't think this will be an inland track like the EURO shows, inland meaning that it goes to the southwest of Cape COd, MA. I think this takes a track just east of the B/M.

If it goes just east of the B/M that means the north shore coast won't mix right?

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Gfs says eyes on trough close enough to watch for 2-4

[CCPSUSuperstorm2010]

Gfs says eyes on trough close enough to watch for 2-4

GFS is definitely more moist for Cape Cod, MA, I am liking this trough for tomorrow, model trends are good right now with this trough swinging through.

[dryslot]

I cant hear the show

[ROOSTA]

Most said they would be happy not to see another KU for 10 years after their luck last winter.

This is true. Actually had a feel good for the folks. Fun Rev and Ray mixing the pot. Geo wars were fun....LOL

The model rollercoaster over the next day o two!

[weatherwiz]

Well so far the 0z GFS is a bit slower with that s/w in the SW through 48...good so far.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

I think whatever way this is going will be clearer in the next two hours

[weatherwiz]

Looking pretty good through 66! Continues to be much slower than the 12z run with the s/w and the system off the NE coast is also a bit further off to the west, heights out in the west pumping up a big higher as well.

[dendrite]

H5 looks a lot more like the NAM/EC.

[OKpowdah]

Huge shift in line with Euro and NAM

[CCPSUSuperstorm2010]

90 hours the 00z GFS looks good. However I think this is still a little too flat with the 500mb trough. It is definitely trending the right way now.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Not sure I've ever seen such substantial differences in 12 hours. Check out the 90h 0z vs 102h 12z at 500. LOL!

[weatherwiz]

Yeah not quite exactly like that of the NAM/Euro but this is certainly a step in the right direction towards those two...definite good signs so far.

[weathafella]

Closer but will probably JUST miss unless it does a reach around ala 12/26/04...possible.

[weatherwiz]

Not sure I've ever seen such substantial differences in 12 hours. Check out the 90h 0z vs 102h 12z at 500. LOL!

Seems like the slower timing is preventing the southern stream energy from being absorb by the northern stream too early.