dryslot Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Take the ECM ensemble mean and call me in the morning. Jerry, Where did the ECM Ensembles have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The Euro can't be wrong again, can it??? Why not? Its 5-6 days out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Well, I grew up in New London. Our aspirations there were to get sleet instead of rain.. Sadly this is too true. Had 2 or 3 inches in the '93 storm, then 2.5 inches of rain with a couple hours of sleet in between. I've found models to be too slow and not aggressive enough with the changeovers in coastal areas. This is where the pattern recognition comes in and the human forecaster can score an easy win over the computer models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattlacroix4 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 The GFS is like a sick cow, it needs to be brought behind the barn and shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 CAn someone tell me one more time why we're looking at the GFS at all on any run at this time frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbosch Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Why not? Its 5-6 days out. Sure, but would we rather have the GFS or the Euro with us? No contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 CAn someone tell me one more time why we're looking at the GFS at all on any run at this time frame? Because we can, And its the only model running right now........ I like that its OTS because it has plenty of time to come west........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Why not? Its 5-6 days out. Sure can but when was the last time it was dead wrong after five straight runs almost identical? Just asking, Will boycott the fookin radio show, just horrible JUJU LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 It's snowed twice in a year, both retrograde type scenarios with precip moving in from the NE. Yet another 5-6+ day mega storm potentially going bye bye as we get closer should be no surprise. It's great that the EC still has it, probably not great that it has the support of the GGEM. The GFS just joined El Capatain in going wider right then Scott Norwood after a bender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Because we can, And its the only model running right now........ I like that its OTS because it has plenty of time to come west........ I'll second that emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Totally different 18z run and setup than the most recent storm but eerily similar to the epic 00z ECM collapse (complete with radio show). Heavy heavy anxiety permeating from the weenies on the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Sure can but when was the last time it was dead wrong after five straight runs almost identical? Just asking, Will boycott the fookin radio show, just horrible JUJU LOL OP runs can goof off at this stage of the game. People shoulndn't bash a model if it loses a storm within 132+ hours. I wouldn't. Anything can happen a this point. Edit: what I mean is that if indeed this whiffs (not saying it will) then you shouldn't bash the euro. It's an op run, vulnerable to wild swings this far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 OP runs can goof off at this stage of the game. People shoulndn't bash a model if it loses a storm within 132+ hours. I wouldn't. Anything can happen a this point. I agree, this is well outside the skill range for these models. What did the EC ENS show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I agree, this is well outside the skill range for these models. What did the EC ENS show? Took the low very close or just a hair east of the BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbosch Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Totally different 18z run and setup than the most recent storm but eerily similar to the epic 00z ECM collapse (complete with radio show). Heavy heavy anxiety permeating from the weenies on the boards. You mean the one where we had the storm for 2 runs and nothing more? A failure with this storm, from having it modeled for more runs and with an "easier" setup, would be a lot worse and much more unlikely. And ha, yeah, we get it...radio show. Let's relax with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Took the low very close or just a hair east of the BM. Thanks. Let's hope. I feel the best shot is the SE 1/3 of NE back to Will and Kev up into SE NH and a touch of Maine. A track just outside the BM would get that done. I won't discount a miss though, don't like what the GFS just did here at all. I understand the teleconnections and all that but this isn't a particularly impressive southern s/w at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Can we start a new thread for the 1/1 event? That way we can really beat some dead horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Jerry, Where did the ECM Ensembles have it? Apparently near or just east of BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Attention NCEP: We need a correction vector, stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What's up, boys.....I'm on edge about this one....prepare for a week of vintage Ray meltowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wx4cast Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What's up, boys.....I'm on edge about this one....prepare for a week of vintage Ray meltowns. I'll supply the beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 What's up, boys.....I'm on edge about this one....prepare for a week of vintage Ray meltowns. That may be a good consolation prize if it whiffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 I would say the chances this whiffs are 0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 18z GEFS mean is a light scraping for SE SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 18z GEFS mean is a light scraping for SE SNE. Yeah it looks a little west of the op at hr 120 and hr 132. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Wow...emotions are running higher than a 5 month old pregnant lady and this sucker is still 5+ days out. Gotta calm the emotions down a bit and stop throwing out '93 superstorm and all those comparisons, it's way too early. At this point if the models do indeed end end backing off and we see another OTS solution some people are going to heave heart attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 That may be a good consolation prize if it whiffs. Or if it pulls a Jan 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 How do I upload images from iPad again? Download the free tapatalk app, search for americanwx,subscribe use that for image upload , nice app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Wow...emotions are running higher than a 5 month old pregnant lady and this sucker is still 5+ days out. Gotta calm the emotions down a bit and stop throwing out '93 superstorm and all those comparisons, it's way too early. At this point if the models do indeed end end backing off and we see another OTS solution some people are going to heave heart attacks. I didn't employ the storm of the century as an analog, I merely made the point that the pressure gradient depicted on the 00z EURO was equal to it. Do I expect that...of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patfan1987 Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 Download the free tapatalk app, search for americanwx,subscribe use that for image upload , nice app Doesn't it require more than the basic version to upload pics? I tried on my Droid Incredible and it was giving me issues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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