CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 He probably hates that the qpf isn't bombs away...but who cares about that at 180 hours. Thats the last thing I would worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 NW trend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I didn't imply that it was crucial; I merely asked why the model was doing that so I could learn. Who knows why its not showing more...maybe some interference with that pv trying to phase in, but its doubtful we'd get little qpf if the low does what it does on that run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Thats the last thing I would worry about. I get that, ok, but can either of you offer an explanation as to why it does that......or is it just attributed to the extended lead muting things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I didn't imply that it was crucial; I merely asked why the model was doing that so I could learn. It could come back balls to the wall at 00z. For whatever reason, perhaps it doesn't like the forcing/waa with it. I've seen models do this before...you think it would have more qpf than it shows. Usually, they increase a little as the event gets closer so I don't worry about it when we are a week out. I'm just speculating since I can't look at any detailed stuff on the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Sounds like its in the ballpark enough for a day 7 prog.... I didn't imply that it was crucial; I merely asked why the model was doing that so I could learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Who knows why its not showing more...maybe some interference with that pv trying to phase in, but its doubtful we'd get little qpf if the low does what it does on that run. Ok, thanks. I agree....I'd expect a lashing from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 It could come back balls to the wall at 00z. For whatever reason, perhaps it doesn't like the forcing/waa with it. I've seen models do this before...you think it would have more qpf than it shows. Usually, they increase a little as the event gets closer so I don't worry about it when we are a week out. I'm just speculating since I can't look at any detailed stuff on the euro. Thanks....just curious; obviously QPF isn't crucial at day 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 At this point, you just want to see something close...and hope it stays close until a few days out. Even then, we see how bad it can go wrong when the Euro is gung ho at 90 hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I guess the Euro never really bought on this current event until those two errant runs within 4 days... So it's good to see it showing a real threat at day 7 maybe. At this point, you just want to see something close...and hope it stays close until a few days out. Even then, we see how bad it can go wrong when the Euro is gung ho at 90 hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I guess the Euro never really bought on this current event until those two errant runs within 4 days... So it's good to see it showing a real threat at day 7 maybe. I'm confident in this one, Rick.....not just playing a hunch, either. Been consistently modeled and I just can't fathom coming out of this month without one appreciable event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 .3", here....only in 2010 can we have a 984 mb low crawling just under the BM producing only an advisory event. Are you seriously complaining? Only in 2010 would complain that a model is not showing a blizzard one week out. Given the threats we've had and missed from 7-10 days out, you should be happy it's not showing one. 29.0/17 Edit: apologies, Ray. I just read your other posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Are you seriously complaining? Only in 2010 would complain that a model is not showing a blizzard one week out. Given the threats we've had and missed from 7-10 days out, you should be happy it's not showing one. 29.0/17 Edit: apologies, Ray. I just read your other posts. Yea, that was kind of a tongue-in-cheek post, but if any year could pull that off..... I mean, take a look back at some of the set ups we have had and what transipred. I do think this one will come through...not a HECS, but a nice mod event. Many great years didn't kickoff until just after xmas, most notably Jerry's ultimate fetish season of 1993-94. 2004-05, other than the one fluke November event around Vet's day, didn't get going until the same day this one is modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 2006-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 2006-7 Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Horrible...I remember being fogged in and humid with like 60's F on the first day of winter that year.... Nothing compares to that.... 2006-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 At this point, you just want to see something close...and hope it stays close until a few days out. Even then, we see how bad it can go wrong when the Euro is gung ho at 90 hours... Did you get my text? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Kevin says the Xmas storm is a miss. Maybe it's time to lock it in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Ensembles have the low maybe 60-70 miles se of the BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherX Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Kevin says the Xmas storm is a miss. Maybe it's time to lock it in? He'll be leading the masses to the promised land after tonight's zero zee runs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Ensembles have the low maybe 60-70 miles se of the BM. Interesting that the Euro is slower than the GFS by a good 12-18 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 The 12z GFS is simply awe inspiring; perfectly situated 1036 mb high couples with a 975 mb low just inside the BM to create a 1978 esc PG, all the while dumping over a foot inside of rt 495 (likely extending further in actuality). That chart probably implies about a 2' for someone just to the poleward side of the cf front along the immediate N shore and through Boston into the S shore, with some OES contribution to boot, along the n and s shores, respectively. Cf would not sniff rt 128 with that pp pattern...no way; heavy, heavy ageostrophic flow. That is a more intense version of December 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 The 12z GFS is simply awe inspiring; perfectly situated 1036 mb high couples with a 975 mb low just inside the BM to create a 1978 esc PG, all the while dumping over a foot inside of rt 495 (likely extending further in actuality). That chart probably implies about a 2' for someone just to the poleward side of the cf front along the immediate N shore and through Boston into the S shore, with some OES contribution to boot, along the n and s shores, respectively. Cf would not sniff rt 128 with that pp pattern...no way; heavy, heavy ageostrophic flow. That is a more intense version of December 2003. Yeah 12z GFS is beautiful. Widespread 10-20" from HFD-PVD-BOS. Nice winds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Yeah 12z GFS is beautiful. Widespread 10-20" from HFD-PVD-BOS. Nice winds too. Understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Yeah 12z GFS is beautiful. Widespread 10-20" from HFD-PVD-BOS. Nice winds too. Too bad it's the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 NW trend Nobody has responded to this very insightful statement. So I will of course. Is the synoptic setup one in which you might expect a north trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Has socks said this one is a miss yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Has socks said this one is a miss yet? He's actually for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Has socks said this one is a miss yet? Dobbs Ferry has a shot so I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 He's actually for it. He's for it and Kevin's against it. That's a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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