Storm next weekend has better teleconnector support than this misery ever did

[weatherwiz]

Yup..many here will be upset with 4-8 out of this..

I certainly hope that wouldn't be the case.

Beggars can't be choosers. Sign me up for that. I'd be happy. I think it's silly to expect or rule out a KU, though.

Heck no, I always root for the best/ well worst if you are Tip, whatever the outcome.there are only a few here who would be, you know who they are. But that's their fetish and I can not say it's a bad fetish just few and far between.

Well this is good to hear. I would like a KU as well but if it doesn't happen who cares as long as we at least get some snow, especially this year given the really slow start we've had.

[Ginx snewx]

I could be wrong.....but I think a big storm comes out of this pattern. The only way I could see a more moderate event is if we get a scrapper.

When HM, DT, Mr Windcredible, you and other mets get this feeling it's pretty sweet to read, hopefully Y'all do not get the Rhea.

[Mr. Windcredible!]

Man do people have a fetish for KU's...so if we actually get a storm and it turns out to be a 4-8'' type deal are people going to be upset?

most of us would be disappointed with 3 feet if the next town over got 4. that's why we're weenies.

[SJonesWX]

Yup..many here will be upset with 4-8 out of this..

not me, the last time I saw 4" was 2/24, and that mess changed over to rain 4-8 would be a nice start to what has been a pretty dry winter so far

[weatherwiz]

most of us would be disappointed with 3 feet if the next town over got 4. that's why we're weenies.

Good point.

[OKpowdah]

You're bound to get one right sooner or later. Hopefully this is it

If you were forecasting for this past storm, every plow in the state would've been out in force for a snow shower.

[Baroclinic Zone]

Thru 54h

[Kbosch]

Well this is good to hear. I would like a KU as well but if it doesn't happen who cares as long as we at least get some snow, especially this year given the really slow start we've had.

Yeah, and the time is now, even though long-range warmth may have relaxed a bit. I think there is a good state of mind among the masses.

[SnowMan]

Man do people have a fetish for KU's...so if we actually get a storm and it turns out to be a 4-8'' type deal are people going to be upset?

Absolutely!

[weatherwiz]

12z GFS at 66 HR is held back more with the energy than the SW than the 0z GFS at the same time (78 HR).

[Baroclinic Zone]

12z GFS at 66 HR is held back more with the energy than the SW than the 0z GFS at the same time (78 HR).

It's noticeably slower than the 06z and 00z runs.

[leesun]

If you extrapolate the 12z MAN past 84H, it looks like it would be a big miss. The H5 upper midwest trof is not even digging at 84H

Thru 54h

[weatherwiz]

If you extrapolate the 12z MAN past 84H, it looks like it would be a big miss. The H5 upper midwest trof is not even digging at 84H

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Probably not a good trend, slower, weaker, not a good looking s/w at all at 60+

[Tropopause_Fold]

Hey Phil, did you see the euro winds for you?

yeah. crazy

[Baroclinic Zone]

It's noticeably slower than the 06z and 00z runs.

Also notice the current system is exiting NE faster.

[weatherwiz]

It's noticeably slower than the 06z and 00z runs.

Looks a bit more positively tilted too at 66 HR where the 0z GFS at 78 looked a bit more neutrally tilted.

[Baroclinic Zone]

Probably not a good trend, slower, weaker, not a good looking s/w at all at 60+

It's coming more in line with the Euro

[Damage In Tolland]

It's coming more in line with the Euro

Muderously agree. Prob end farther west in the end

[Clinch Leatherwood]

It's coming more in line with the Euro

Haven't looked!

It's a lot slower, just a delayed development. Just starting to develop at 90.

Heights building in the west.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Muderously agree. Prob end farther west in the end

or way east or hooked

[leesun]

I don't think the slower trend is necessarily a bad thing. It may be coming into consensus with the Euro and GGEM.

Probably not a good trend, slower, weaker, not a good looking s/w at all at 60+

[Baroclinic Zone]

Haven't looked!

It's a lot slower, just a delayed development. Just starting to develop at 90.

Heights building in the west.

That ridge out west is huge.

[dryslot]

Looks like a whiff.........

[Baroclinic Zone]

[weatherwiz]

90 HR doesn't look bad at all..still some separation between the northern stream energy and the southern stream energy..with the southern stream still the stronger of the two. not as amplified out ahead though as 0z. PV looks a bit further south as well.

[Mr. Windcredible!]

If you extrapolate the 12z MAN past 84H, it looks like it would be a big miss. The H5 upper midwest trof is not even digging at 84H

everyone just stop extrapolating the NAM please. If you look back at the 0z model thread last night, some very qualified mets also thought the Euro wasn't going to do it from the look at hour 108-120. then model went boom. bottom line...there is very little skill in trying to extrapolate model images/evolution.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Looks like a whiff.........

it'll probably hook/scrape on this run

[leesun]

Amazing how different H5 is at 84H from the NAM to the GFS. Can anyone take the NAM seriously anymore.

That ridge out west is huge.

[dryslot]

90 HR doesn't look bad at all..still some separation between the northern stream energy and the southern stream energy..with the southern stream still the stronger of the two. not as amplified out ahead though as 0z. PV looks a bit further south as well.

The only prob is the low center is at about 40/65............