CT Rain Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Did you guys get a load of the unga bunga 12z UKMET ? At 144 hours looks nice at 500mb but the sfc low is awfully far east. Probably will get sucked back NW as long as that closed low doesn't start moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Did you guys get a load of the unga bunga 12z UKMET ? Please tell...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Please tell...... It has a sparkling solution; looks like a 5h low closing off ( already two closed contour @ 144hr), and like Ryan said slp probably gets tugged back as system closes off wholly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTWeatherFreak Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 At 144 hours looks nice at 500mb but the sfc low is awfully far east. Probably will get sucked back NW as long as that closed low doesn't start moving. Ryan, are you starting to give xmas snowstorm some weight in your forecasts? While watching at the gym this morning your on air counterpart barely gave it much weight at all, although it did show up in the 7 day graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 It has a sparkling solution; looks like a 5h low closing off ( already two closed contour @ 144hr), and like Ryan said slp probably gets tugged back as system closes off wholly. I hope it gets tugged back. I just found the 144 and it looked like it was going to whiff. It doen't run beyond 144? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Keep it! …wind damage to sky scrapers, roofs blown off some structures and power outages for everyone – Frankly, that’s too much for me kids. I hate it when the power goes out. Not fun. The novelty of it wears off in about 2 minutes when you realize that every amenity known to modern living depends on electricity. F that! I’ll take a 35mph blizzard and white-out as fine; I don’t need hurricane force wind gust in any snow fall, and if you are stupid enough to wish that on you get what you deserve. no way, do I want to that bs. just keep it. This is where we need the eye-rolling, jerking motion smilie. If we get a storm like that you'll be standing naked in a field writing poetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 We need an explosion 75 miles sooner. Any later, a whole buch of us get the old 2010 screwgy. plenty of time on this one we've seen what the models can do in one run ....i wont even bank on a storm even occurring for at least another 3 days at minimum. a storm similar to last weeks euro model would be nice where everyone cashes in, but yeah this one is awfully progressive still its a cold storm with good ratios likely and winds with nice drifts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 Could someone arrange an intervention to remove the crack pipe from NCEP's extended range discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Could someone arrange an intervention to remove the crack pipe from NCEP's extended range discussion? Can you share that discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesun Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 At 156H the Euro is over the Benchmark at 982MB, and the GFS is east of CC already bombed to 972mb. I'd say it was slower. Is it really? at 168, the two models locate the surface low in very close proximity to one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 12z EC ens mean is just SE of the BM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The EC ensembles take the low about 80miles east of the BM, but the trough is sharper on this run imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Could someone arrange an intervention to remove the crack pipe from NCEP's extended range discussion? Assume you mean this? Why not ride a year-long pattern until it burns them? THE BIGGER QUESTION IS HOW CLOSE TO THE NEWENGLAND COAST THIS CYCLONE WILL TRACK. THE 00Z ECMWF IS THE MOST NORTHWESTERLY OF THE GUIDANCE AT THE SURFACE...AND IF THIS SURFACE LOW WERE MOVING UP THE EAST SIDE OF AN AMPLIFIED TROUGH RATHER THAN A PROGRESSIVE CLOSED CYCLONE...A MORE COASTAL TRACK FOR NEW ENGLAND WOULD MAKE SENSE. SINCE THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE CASE...AND THE 12Z ECMWF BACKED OFF THIS IDEA SOMEWHAT...THE 00Z ECMWF CYCLONE TRACK ALONG THE EAST COAST IS PROBABLY TOO FAR NORTHWEST/TOO CLOSE TO THE COAST. OTHER GUIDANCE...INCLUDING THE ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS...MOVE THIS SYSTEM CLOSER TO THE GULF STREAM...A NATURAL BAROCLINIC ZONE/AREA OF TEMPERATURE GRADIENT OFFSHORE THE EAST COAST...WHICH APPEARS MORE LIKELY CONSIDERING THE FLOW PATTERN ALOFT. THE 12Z CANADIAN MOVES IT DUE EAST AS IT EMERGES INTO THE ATLANTIC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Could someone arrange an intervention to remove the crack pipe from NCEP's extended range discussion? Well, that's a bummer of a read. I guess you disagree...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Well, not all of these suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 ^ Looks pretty damn good if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 LOL I'm sorry, I never put much stock in the HPC discussions anymore. I've found them to be pretty awful over the last few years. Either they go extremely bullish and bust horribly or they state some arbitrary reason not to go gung ho, which is often irrelevent. Now recently, they've had this fetish for referencing the location of the baroclinic zone, which is of course important, but not overpowering up against large scale features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug1991 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Well, not all of these suck. Agreed. Seriously though, Our luck has been terrible since last winter in our parts. Has anything changed that would change that? Suddenly New England is the new snow hole. WTH is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 ^ Looks pretty damn good if you ask me. I think you missed my sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I think you missed my sarcasm. I wouldn't worry too much yet given the GFS SE bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I wouldn't worry too much yet given the GFS SE bias. I could be wrong, but I think that bias is now minimal after the recent upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I think you missed my sarcasm. That I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 This is what Ray's driveway will look like after this upcoming storm... ...actually this shot is from Mammoth, CA today where they've picked up 53" in the last 24 hours and have a storm total of 13.5 feet so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 This is what Ray's driveway will look like after this upcoming storm... ...actually this shot is from Mammoth, CA today where they've picked up 53" in the last 24 hours and have a storm total of 13.5 feet so far. she shouldn't have parked there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Already posted this in the NYC thread, but you guys will probably enjoy this too 18z DGEX http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/DGEXEAST_18z/dgexloop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 This is what Ray's driveway will look like after this upcoming storm... ...actually this shot is from Mammoth, CA today where they've picked up 53" in the last 24 hours and have a storm total of 13.5 feet so far. She's gonna need a bigger shovel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 She's gonna need a bigger shovel I honestly don't think I'd know what to do with over 50" in 24 hours...haha. Add that to the other 10 feet that has fallen this week there and you probably have a snow removal problem, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Already posted this in the NYC thread, but you guys will probably enjoy this too 18z DGEX http://www.meteo.psu...z/dgexloop.html A fine looking system--shouldn't have posted that though. You've set a high bar of expecations with that (my are being managed, happy to say). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 18z GFS is a bomb moving right over the Cape. Big hit for the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 A fine looking system--shouldn't have posted that though. You've set a high bar of expecations with that (my are being managed, happy to say). Trust me, in no way am I expecting anything close to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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