leesun Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Looks like 12-15:1 ratios depending on where you are. Huge hit! GFS has nice little clipper behind it and then 2 Southern stream systems behind that. It's a cold storm. This would be a big hit verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Weenie map... Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 What do you mean by the progressive nature of the event? The H5 low isn't capturing it so it keeps moving along. I wouldn't be shocked to see some 20:1 ratios in the best CSI banding.....there would likely be some oes contributuions, as well. Bottom line: that is a 1-2' blitz, region wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The H5 low isn't capturing it so it keeps moving along. I wouldn't be shocked to see some 20:1 ratios in the best CSI banding.....there would likely be some oes contributuions, as well. Bottom line: that is a 1-2' blitz, region wide. When it moves 50 miles closer in it'll be region-wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Bottom line: that is a 1-2' blitz, region wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutmegfriar Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Can we fast forward? I dunno, but until we get something I am going to keep my hopes in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The H5 low isn't capturing it so it keeps moving along. I wouldn't be shocked to see some 20:1 ratios in the best CSI banding.....there would likely be some oes contributuions, as well. Bottom line: that is a 1-2' blitz, region wide. You do realize there's a 50/50 chance this misses us to the south right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyglover Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You do realize there's a 50/50 chance this misses us to the south right? Well since the last storm missed, that 50/50 chance is on our favor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You do realize there's a 50/50 chance this misses us to the south right? It's coming, Rev. :snowman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Well since the last storm missed, that 50/50 chance is on our favor! Not sure it works that way, but I like the optimism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverWX Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Wow last week all over again. That would be a nice hit down my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 972mb low and a 1032mb high...have some wind. Yeah, definitely a short-duration blizzard. Looking at the QPF maps this thing hits quickly and hard... looks like a 12 hour storm (of meaningful snows at least) though -SN/--SN on each side would make it about an 18 hour storm. This fits with what Tip was saying earlier about it being progressive... but anytime you see .5"+ QPF flagged in a 6-hour period, you will most certainly see a good burst of 1"/hr snows during the crux. This is the storm SNE is looking for... not a historic one but just a solid, 8-16" warning event with wind on the GFS. I bet the EURO looks great for SNE this afternoon. Its about time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You do realize there's a 50/50 chance this misses us to the south right? What I do know is that it's an intrinsic element of all long range threats to have the odds stacked against them so I'm not sure what exactly your point is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You do realize there's a 50/50 chance this misses us to the south right? All I know is that there is a 100% certainty this last system missed me to the south and east so I'll gladly take 50/50 odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 What I do know is that it's an intrinsic element of all long range threats to have the odds stacked against tem so I'm not sure what exactly your point is. Yeah... all solid hits on the models could end up missing. But I'm with you Ray, you're area will not get shut-out in this pattern. If it does, *thats* a historic meltdown of mother nature... but there are only so many storms that can exit the mid-Atlantic coast before one of them delivers meaningful snow to a good chunk of SNE. Again, it doesn't have to be a HECS, but sooner or later a 4-8" or 6-12" or even 8-16" event has got to come along. Like the last one, I think the further east you are the better off you'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug1991 Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 All I know is that there is a 100% certainty this last system missed me to the south and east so I'll gladly take 50/50 odds. I agree. Im sick of looking at grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 Check out after hr 126. It goes to town and that nrn stream really digs the trough. sorry, am behind on this over the last hour. the original comment was in gest, and I also was not thinking about this run at hand. i was thinking at some point 'would we lose this' in future runs, in keeping with typology of course... actually though, i think the 00z and 06z subtle unraveling was about as distant as this one is destined to get. this signal just looks huge at the moment, collosal compared to this on-going miss ever did - as this thread started out and i wholeheartedly am still committed to believing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 You do realize there's a 100% chance this misses us to the south right? fixed it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 just reviewed the whole run Interesting lax QPF given the deep layer, but this run is also a clear and decisive attempt to migrate back toward the more intense guidance depictions of prior to 00z last night, so is most likely not fully back on board with its self. I suspect the 12z Euro would be heftier on QPF. I am also interested in the ECM's 12z handling of the geopotential medium in NW Ontario - the 12z GFS shows renewed -NAO presentation there - or at least holding on longer; I intimated this would mean a stally type pattern could evolve if that were the case - the GFS is very close to doing just that but manages to slip the rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 just reviewed the whole run Interesting lax QPF given the deep layer, but this run is also a clear and decisive attempt to migrate back toward the more intense guidance depictions of prior to 00z last night, so is most likely not fully back on board with its self. I suspect the 12z Euro would be heftier on QPF. I am also interested in the ECM's 12z handling of the geopotential medium in NW Ontario - the 12z GFS shows renewed -NAO presentation there - or at least holding on longer; I intimated this would mean a stally type pattern could evolve if that were the case - the GFS is very close to doing just that but manages to slip the rhino I am nervous that this storm be like the 3 ku's last year, where they just run into a block over ne and slide east ots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 I am nervous that this storm be like the 3 ku's last year, where they just run into a block over ne and slide east ots The February and December blocks from last year were significantly stronger than the block being modeled in medium range currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Don't forget Donny baseball Sutherland's thread.. there has never been a KU in a strong nina..So rule out a KU and just hope it's a moderate snowfall if it makes it this far north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 The February and December blocks from last year were significantly stronger than the block being modeled in medium range currently. Ok good.. the gfs has just had that look to the storm where it slides out to sea missing sne or at least my area with the ccb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 12z Euro 24 hrs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Don't forget Donny baseball Sutherland's thread.. there has never been a KU in a strong nina..So rule out a KU and just hope it's a moderate snowfall if it makes it this far north I thin that given the magnitude of the blocking we have seen over the course of the past year, we are prone to alot of "firsts". Flurries.....28.6\18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 This thread seems dead today.. I think everyone is fed up with the day 7 missed threats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 This thread seems dead today.. I think everyone is fed up with the day 7 missed threats Actually it is snowing in E NE right now and then there's more confidence in the mid-week -SN. The Euro isn't even out that far yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Everybody get KU out of your head and think "just snow" A run of the mill snowstorm would be a wonderful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Everybody get KU out of your head and think "just snow" A run of the mill snowstorm would be a wonderful thing. Build some snow pack for the KU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 Everybody get KU out of your head and think "just snow" A run of the mill snowstorm would be a wonderful thing. Is that digging really far south or is it just where they dropped the "L"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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