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Thanksgiving Week Nor'easter Discussion


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If this were February, the 18z GFS would be a weenies dream. 

 

1.5-2" for the entire area through 123 hours 

 

No cold air to work with though. Cold, but much needed rain. 

This run is about as close as we've gotten so far to a realistic solution with snow for the area. We have to see if that northern stream can dig a little more early on with the trough hung up over Texas. If only we had that high to the north, this would have been a blockbuster storm.

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If this were February, the 18z GFS would be a weenies dream. 

 

1.5-2" for the entire area through 123 hours 

 

No cold air to work with though. Cold, but much needed rain. 

No doubt this is going to be a very juicy system. The storm is entirely southern stream and originates right from the Gulf. Too bad there isn't more of a mechanism for the northern stream to dive in and phase quick enough. It still could soon enough for the northern Appalachian regions (PA and upstate NY).

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Things get interesting at 120, especially for western New England because the low is bombing inside the benchmark. CCB into western MA and temps are beginning to crash. Too little to late for us I think.

There isn't really much wraparound precip until the low center is in the gulf of maine.  The mid level centers are not mature before then.

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No doubt this is going to be a very juicy system. The storm is entirely southern stream and originates right from the Gulf. Too bad there isn't more of a mechanism for the northern stream to dive in and phase quick enough. It still could soon enough for the northern Appalachian regions (PA and upstate NY).

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Plus he is not looking at 850 temps at all. A lot of mid level warmth

http://www.surfline.com/weather-forecasts/mid-atlantic/long-island-new-york-sea-surface-temperature_2146/

Sst are warm... It is November... I'm just saying there's really not a lot of cold air to work with right now.. Especially near the coast and with those sst's, many can be torched, even what many might consider inland areas

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http://www.surfline.com/weather-forecasts/mid-atlantic/long-island-new-york-sea-surface-temperature_2146/

Sst are warm... It is November... I'm just saying there's really not a lot of cold air to work with right now.. Especially near the coast and with those sst's, many can be torched, even what many might consider inland areas

There's plenty of cold air. Just not on the coast. And SSTs don't matter unless you get an east wind which would be bad any time of year anyway. We need a rapidly deepening low to occur after a certain longitude so it pulls in the plenty of cold air to our west as it rides up the coast.

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There's plenty of cold air. Just not on the coast. And SSTs don't matter unless you get an east wind which would be bad any time of year anyway. We need a rapidly deepening low to occur after a certain longitude so it pulls in the plenty of cold air to our west as it rides up the coast.

Looking at the maps.. Are we not in mostly an east wind until the precip cuts off? Or am I looking at the wrong soundings? And it matters even with a NE wind as well. Later in the winter it does not matter quite as much as sst's become cold enough that a NE wind can help us cool down, but this time of year, unless it is directly N or NW -which can happen as the low passes our latitude and rapidly deepens- the precipitation usually shuts off prior to us receiving a cold enough atmospheric profile for snow.

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We are flooded with warmth, with the SW flow, well ahead of the storm. That's why a further east track doesn't necessarily result in a snowier solution:

 

 Yea, I think the only chance we have of some snow on the coast if the storm could slow down some more to allow the cold air to catch up.

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If this were February, the 18z GFS would be a weenies dream. 

 

1.5-2" for the entire area through 123 hours 

 

No cold air to work with though. Cold, but much needed rain. 

Without the cold air and high pressure exiting into the Atlantic, it really shouldn't be a weenies dream at any time of year unless you're talking about wet dreams.

WX/PT

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Without the cold air and high pressure exiting into the Atlantic, it really shouldn't be a weenies dream at any time of year unless you're talking about wet dreams.

WX/PT

I'll be more than happy to take a massive soaker right now. Doesn't have to be snow.

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update from the press on the pending N'Easter.

 

http://www.nj.com/weather-guy/index.ssf/2013/11/holiday_havoc_pre-thanksgiving.html#incart_river_default

 

Holiday havoc: Pre-Thanksgiving nor'easter will cause major travel headaches

 

lol it still wouldn't surprise me if this thing dried up or went ots like every other storm the last few months

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