Ensō Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Christina Glowacki @producerxtina 2m #BREAKING: The Washington Co. coroner says two people were killed when a #tornado hit their home in rural southern #Illinois. Also, note that this is Washington County, which is in the south of the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernNJ Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Still with the Brockport storm, cycling for perhaps another tornado near Drakesboro and Rochester KY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I understand people are thinking of it when they are in these situations but we do need to work on defeating VVS (Vertical Video Syndrome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlon62 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Non-tornadic but still a sight in McHenry, IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortex Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Not sure if it's been posted on here but just drove by Coal City, IL at I 55. Looks like major damage and all access to Coal City closed. Emergency equipment everywhere and you can see where tornado crossed over I-55. Fire trucks from Lisle and Downers Grove down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Still with the Brockport storm, cycling for perhaps another tornado near Drakesboro and Rochester KY. Approaching the Morgantown/Woodbury area in Butler Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack123 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 While some photos do show significant structural damage, one thing to look for when identifying more violent tornadoes is the trees and surroundings. Some structures may be weakly built and destroyed by comparatively weaker winds. That's how you can tell the violent tornadoes (May 20, 2010 with the debarked/deformed trees) to the somewhat weaker (damaged/destroyed structures with trees mainly intact). I don't know the building codes in the impacted areas, but that is also something to keep in mind when attempting to diagnose the intensity of a tornado using damage indicators. I can understand that, but there can be a number of other factors as well. Like multiple vorticies or some unknown reason why tornadoes damage one thing and leave one thing nearby unscratched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgeeWx Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 washington (or at least it says that on the picture just posted) edit: It is Washington the road in the top is Main street which goes south What road is the one curving to the N in the bottom of this picture? I have family on Lynn Street in SE Washington, IL that I can't get a hold of and I'm trying to get my bearings straight. Velocity image didn't look like it went South of town but I'm still concerned. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I can understand that, but there can be a number of other factors as well. Like multiple vorticies or some unknown reason why tornadoes damage one thing and leave one thing nearby unscratched. There are hundreds of factors that come into play. I was only stating a few observations based on a photo. The only way to tell the complete extent of the damage is by a detailed damage survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwburbschaser Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Not sure if it's been posted on here but just drove by Coal City, IL at I 55. Looks like major damage and all access to Coal City closed. Emergency equipment everywhere and you can see where tornado crossed over I-55. Fire trucks from Lisle and Downers Grove down. I was on I-55 as it crossed and it was very rain wrapped from what I could tell. Minor damage on I-55 with some trees/power poles down. Not sure if anyone else here was on I-55 at the time, but I said it earlier and I'll say it again, there were lots of people who were stopping at the overpasses. Going northbound people had made it so that only one lane was open at a few overpasses, and then the southbound lanes were completely blocked at one point because of people just stopping on the interstate to take cover under the overpass. It was all between Dwight and Braidwood. Just goes to show that people still have that idea in their minds thinking it is the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Video from Nick Nolte near Long Point, IL (I believe this is the Washington tornado). Some kind of structure on the parent supercell/meso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What road is the one curving to the N in the bottom of this picture? I have family on Lynn Street in SE Washington, IL that I can't get a hold of and I'm trying to get my bearings straight. Velocity image didn't look like it went South of town but I'm still concerned. Thanks I think this is the north end of town, curved road possibly Coventry dr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Weather Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 EF4 damage confirmed in New Minden, where those 2 people were killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What road is the one curving to the N in the bottom of this picture? I have family on Lynn Street in SE Washington, IL that I can't get a hold of and I'm trying to get my bearings straight. Velocity image didn't look like it went South of town but I'm still concerned. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What road is the one curving to the N in the bottom of this picture? I have family on Lynn Street in SE Washington, IL that I can't get a hold of and I'm trying to get my bearings straight. Velocity image didn't look like it went South of town but I'm still concerned. Thanks This was son the NW side of town ...that is main street/washington road on the top... that road appears to be Coventry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 One confirmed fatality in Brookport, IL per WPSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 21Z hand analysis, for reference. isobars every 2 hPa. current sfc low near 984 hPa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 washington (or at least it says that on the picture just posted) edit: It is Washington the road in the top is Main street which goes south Putting the damage into perspective ... here's a google street view near the center of the photo above: Completely flattened: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washington,+il&hl=en&ll=40.71507,-89.42222&spn=0.005424,0.010493&sll=41.481648,-81.806277&sspn=0.042889,0.083942&t=h&hnear=Washington,+Tazewell,+Illinois&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.71498,-89.422221&panoid=0sGZBhFAcYcoq5-9gTOzWA&cbp=12,349.94,,0,12.98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgeeWx Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Thanks for the replies all. If anyone in the area knows or contacts Louie and Harriett Venzon please let me know. I'm in Grand Forks and am debating making the drive back home to help with relief efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlon62 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 McHenry High School's McCracken Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Washington, IL prelim EF4, with 2 fatalities, per Tim Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Weather Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Washington, IL prelim EF4, with 2 fatalities, per Tim Marshall. I think he's mistating the already reported New Minden EF4, as that occurred in Washington COUNTY, IL. Separate from the city of Washington's tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Also, just gonna say that the high res models pretty much nailed this, adding to a growing list this year where they performed excellently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadotony Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Washington, IL prelim EF4, with 2 fatalities, per Tim Marshall. You mean Washington County (New Minden)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 You mean Washington County (New Minden)? I'm wondering how many times these two tornadoes have been confused with each other since they occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Most of Michigan dodged a bullet big time..... IMBY highest gust 11.4mph.. .5 of rain.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 In the midst of all the arguing, seems like my community got the absolute worst of the storm in NW Ohio. An 85 mph wind gust recorded in Wood county, two around 65 mph, and a roof was blown off a house near Toledo. Waiting for other reports still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 We all know this was bad, but let's keep the speculation on the EF rating out of this thread for now, until a survey is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 What's shocking about the initial tornado damage photos is the relative scarcity of trees. Sometimes it looks like trees (as projectiles) compound the damage potential, but I have to wonder how cars parked on the street really start to amplify debris as the kinetic energy builds. Flying cars would really help damage the integrity of any common structure we see on a day to day basis, and with less structural integrity, this could really present a problem. Does anyone know any studies that show how different debris components (like mobile homes, cars, trees) work against each other and exponentially intensify damage? If it were shown to be a debris intensifying factor - is there a plausible scenario where people anchor their cars if a tornado is approaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 This looks like the worst November tornado outbreak in the U.S. since 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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