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December 24-25 Snowstorm


Jim Martin

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LOL...look at the pathetic 300mb maps. Doesn't really get going until 120hours. I don't see how we get that 3-6" out of that but what do I know.

Same way I feel, but at this point I will take it. GFS has consistently raised the qpf for us for 4 straight runs now. Would be nice for the euro to move north now, so we could get some consistency.

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im trying..I wish I knew a lot more...this is hard stuff.

Man, you've come a long way just from last winter...I'd nominate you for most improved poster... One thing you're not anymore (not really saying you were one lol) is a wish casting weenie. You really have left the IYBY homerism and emotions at the door and are looking at things at more of a whole and not letting it get you down if you do miss out on a event.

GL with the xmas eve storm!

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Man, you've come a long way just from last winter...I'd nominate you for most improved poster... One thing you're not anymore (not really saying you were one lol) is a wish casting weenie. You really have left the IYBY homerism and emotions at the door and are looking at things at more of a whole and not letting it get you down if you do miss out on a event.

GL with the xmas eve storm!

Yeah, I think its getting easier on all of us...it probably also helps that there has been non stop action now. Well honestly, once you can read a H5 chart...which isn't saying much the writing is on the wall. becuase there is no way around it. It might be easier on this storm because it keeps saying I am getting a winter storm warning event.

and we have trended from all ice with a tiny bit of snow, actually rain and ice and light flurries to 5-10 inches pending which model you use.

thank though I deeply appreciate it. The last thing I want is to sound like a know it all, I don't know anything compared to these mets. But I want to try and throw stuff out there and contribute.

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LOL at this rate instead of Ohio being the Screw zone it might be here with the way it shears out the energy like that, although I'd take a guess and say that in real life it's not going to dry up as fast as the models are showing. will it be weaker as you head east, yep but I'm not buying this STL getting 6" whereas here in flora were lucky to get 3-4". something tells me we may be in the losing it pattern for it to come back right before the event starts. BUT none the less if it stays like this i'll take it, but I'll be hellish jelous of STL, if it's not ice storms, it's snow sweet spots they steal from me :P

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LOL at this rate instead of Ohio being the Screw zone it might be here with the way it shears out the energy like that, although I'd take a guess and say that in real life it's not going to dry up as fast as the models are showing. will it be weaker as you head east, yep but I'm not buying this STL getting 6" whereas here in flora were lucky to get 3-4". something tells me we may be in the losing it pattern for it to come back right before the event starts. BUT none the less if it stays like this i'll take it, but I'll be hellish jelous of STL, if it's not ice storms, it's snow sweet spots they steal from me :P

OSUMetstud said this in the main forum:

It looks like the GFS completely diminishes the southern shortwave between 84 and 102 hours. That doesn't seem reasonable IMO. The system becomes dominated by northern stream energy by the time it starts to really blow up.

HM kind of agreed:

Excellent point. Things are still a little too fast as well, per the other models. If the STJ s/w stays a defined feature, this will hit everyone and not just NJ/northeast.

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OSUMetstud said this in the main forum:

It looks like the GFS completely diminishes the southern shortwave between 84 and 102 hours. That doesn't seem reasonable IMO. The system becomes dominated by northern stream energy by the time it starts to really blow up.

HM kind of agreed:

Excellent point. Things are still a little too fast as well, per the other models. If the STJ s/w stays a defined feature, this will hit everyone and not just NJ/northeast.

exactly, something just does not look right to me on this, however with that said it's shown this now what since the 6Z run this morning, so I don't know... I'm going with my gut here and I'm thinking we don't see that super fast weakening.

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OSUMetstud said this in the main forum:

It looks like the GFS completely diminishes the southern shortwave between 84 and 102 hours. That doesn't seem reasonable IMO. The system becomes dominated by northern stream energy by the time it starts to really blow up.

HM kind of agreed:

Excellent point. Things are still a little too fast as well, per the other models. If the STJ s/w stays a defined feature, this will hit everyone and not just NJ/northeast.

Pd2 was last I remember a storm hitting nearly everyone.

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