HIPPYVALLEY Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 36F. Wonder if we can hit upper teens here tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Holy crap, BTV set a record low. I like how the NWS terms it a "rarity" these days. It certainly is! "We broke some low temperature records this morning in a few spots...a rarity these days! Burlington fell to 20 F, Montpelier 14 F, and Massena, NY 18 F, all records. With strong high pressure remaining overhead tonight, chilly temperatures are once again expected. Lows mainly 12-22 F, though locally milder near the Lake Champlain shore, and colder in favored northern mountain hollows. See accompanying map for forecast low temperatures in your general area." didn't Montpelier set one last week? Aren't temp records supposed to be rarities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 36F. Wonder if we can hit upper teens here tonight? clouds moving in, so doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 36F. Wonder if we can hit upper teens here tonight? I'd put that in the 'pretty safe bet' category. 34.1/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yep Hubbdave I noticed the puddles on the road had ice on it as well. The little weenie things you noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think MetHerb gets the award for having the most ridculously cooling site in SNE. I think he cools faster than Pete. 32.2/14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Cold day today. Shock to the system, even I'm the sun it wasn't much of a relief, hope to see much more of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Aren't temp records supposed to be rarities?lol maybe but they aren't if you are looking for warm records...days, weeks, monthly, annually. We set new ones all the time for warmth Ginxy, you know that. We have to cherish the cold ones First three weeks in October were the warmest ever with almost a +8 departure over 21 days at BTV. Don't have to look hard to find warm records there. Wasn't it snowman that posted a while back the number of daily warm records at New England sites were out-pacing the daily cold records by like 4 to 1 in the past x-number of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 High temp here was 37.2F. Below what I thought by a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 lol maybe but they aren't if you are looking for warm records...days, weeks, monthly, annually. We set new ones all the time for warmth Ginxy, you know that. We have to cherish the cold ones First three weeks in October were the warmest ever with almost a +8 departure over 21 days at BTV. Don't have to look hard to find warm records there. Wasn't it snowman that posted a while back the number of daily warm records at New England sites were out-pacing the daily cold records by like 4 to 1 in the past x-number of years? just asking here, how many daily high records did Montpelier set in October? Two lows in a week is a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 High temp here was 37.2F. Below what I thought by a few High of 38F up here (and 38F at 1600ft ski resort base too), and currently down to 26F. MPV at 1,200ft had a high of 36-37F, and is currently at 24F already at 6pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think MetHerb gets the award for having the most ridculously cooling site in SNE. I think he cools faster than Pete. 32.2/14 I'm not complaining. Down to 29° here, 24° over in Union. Yikes! That site radiates like a mofo at first, then slows down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 just asking here, how many daily high records did Montpelier set in October? Two lows in a week is a good sign.I'm not sure in October..might have had a record high minimum or something associated with the record warmth for three weeks, but I don't see any record highs...I know they set three warm records in September though. I'm not sure why we seem to always go back and forth on this, haha. You can't deny the fact that warm records are far out-pacing cold records. It's not an interpretation. I wish it wasn't true, but we aren't pumping out cold records. BTV said it was a rarity, not me, but I agree with that assessment. Luckily like you said, it's a good sign to have two in a week. I honestly wish we knew when the last time that happened, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm not complaining. Down to 29° here, 24° over in Union. Yikes! That site radiates like a mofo at first, then slows down. Yeah that's awesomely impressive for that Union station. How far is it from the center of town (like the church and crossroads)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm not complaining. Down to 29° here, 24° over in Union. Yikes! That site radiates like a mofo at first, then slows down. That's your station in Union, right? That's the one I was referring to--though I managed to post the wrong map! So much for my hope for a precipitous temp drop after sunset. 29.9/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm not sure in October..might have had a record high minimum or something associated with the record warmth for three weeks, but I don't see any record highs...I know they set three warm records in September though. I'm not sure why we seem to always go back and forth on this, haha. You can't deny the fact that warm records are far out-pacing cold records. It's not an interpretation. I wish it wasn't true, but we aren't pumping out cold records. BTV said it was a rarity, not me, but I agree with that assessment. Luckily like you said, it's a good sign to have two in a week. I honestly wish we knew when the last time that happened, lol. We blitzed out quite a few cold records in the early 2000s...but its not like they were dominating the heat records. Any long term station will have trouble breaking cold records from the early 20th century or even some of the epic cold shots in the 1970s. We've been very warm the past 6 years though relatively speaking versus the rest of the CONUS, making it even tougher than usual to break older cold records. The only real cold period was parts of 2009. We did experience a record cold 60 day period that summer. BOS tied their coldest June on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm not sure in October..might have had a record high minimum or something associated with the record warmth for three weeks, but I don't see any record highs...I know they set three warm records in September though. I'm not sure why we seem to always go back and forth on this, haha. You can't deny the fact that warm records are far out-pacing cold records. It's not an interpretation. I wish it wasn't true, but we aren't pumping out cold records. BTV said it was a rarity, not me, but I agree with that assessment. Luckily like you said, it's a good sign to have two in a week. I honestly wish we knew when the last time that happened, lol. Geez I just asked a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 We blitzed out quite a few cold records in the early 2000s...but its not like they were dominating the heat records. Any long term station will have trouble breaking cold records from the early 20th century or even some of the epic cold shots in the 1970s. We've been very warm the past 6 years though relatively speaking versus the rest of the CONUS, making it even tougher than usual to break older cold records. The only real cold period was parts of 2009. We did experience a record cold 60 day period that summer. BOS tied their coldest June on record. Yeah, good points. I'm definitely going to be biased as I've lived here for those 6 very warm years, and I'd wager the warm records may even out-number the cold records like 6:1 if you include record high minimums and monthly temperature records. I don't like it as a snow lover and used to deflect it when people talked about the warm records, but the trend has been really hard to ignore for me lately. I'm not trying to be like LL and praise warmth and sun...just trying to talk about it as it's hard to ignore the background warmth of the past decade.I see BTV's last back to back cold months were in 2009...it was -1.4 in June 2009 and -2.4 in July 2009, before August rebounded to +1.6. That -2.4 to me is really impressive knowing the stats of the last 6 years, must've been a chilly summer month. Also, your point on the longer term climate sites having trouble breaking cold records from like 100 years ago in early 20th century is a good point. Montpelier seems to break more cold records, but they have a shorter record period (starting in the 1950s I think), vs BTV's records to 1882. BTV had like an extra 70 years to set cold records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yeah that's awesomely impressive for that Union station. How far is it from the center of town (like the church and crossroads)? It's about a mile as the crow flies. Its in a col about 50' below the top of the hill in an opening in one of my sugar bushes. Here's a map showing approximately where. You can see it's about a mile or so from the center of town. I think the combination of elevation and low spot helps settle colder air but it slows down after a while. I'm often colder by morning because I tend to steadily drop all night. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.992862,-72.1874&num=1&t=p&z=14 That's your station in Union, right? That's the one I was referring to--though I managed to post the wrong map! So much for my hope for a precipitous temp drop after sunset. 29.9/13 Yeah, that's my other station. Like I've mentioned it's so I can monitor temps in one of my sugar bushes but it's more for amusement at times. Still currently 29/19 here and 24/15 in Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Geez I just asked a question Haha sorry. Just bored and went looking for a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Haha sorry. Just bored and went looking for a debate.You have been testy lately...Lol We just had one of our cats shaved (she had lots of knots). She is not appreciating this cool shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 You have been testy lately... Lol We just had one of our cats shaved (she had lots of knots). She is not appreciating this cool shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah And about a shaved cat. You gotta do what you gotta do to please Ullr. If shaving your cat makes it cold, keep doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yeah, that's my other station. Like I've mentioned it's so I can monitor temps in one of my sugar bushes but it's more for amusement at times. Still currently 29/19 here and 24/15 in Union. I also enjoy checking the temps in Union, since they're often much cooler than here, and it seems like 7 people live in that town. Hopefully one of these days we can get a weather watcher in Union for snow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 NNE thread is the best. Never a mention of a bad or torch pattern coming up. Just always high/low and pics of mtns. It's like they close their eyes during torches and wake up when the pattern changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 NNE thread is the best. Never a mention of a bad or torch pattern coming up. Just always high/low and pics of mtns. It's like they close their eyes during torches and wake up when the pattern changes. We had some nice meltdowns in 09-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I'll be damned... did not think they would bother, but looks like they hit Indian Summer, Ralphs, Smith, Challenger, Ollie's It will melt away Thursday I should have looked as I went by on Rte 2. Now that the leaves are down I can see it We'll it looks like they're making it again tonight and yes, I bet a lot melted away today. Maybe they're just testing equipment more than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 NNE thread is the best. Never a mention of a bad or torch pattern coming up. Just always high/low and pics of mtns. It's like they close their eyes during torches and wake up when the pattern changes. They have the latitude and altitude for that luxury Hell, a torch up there in winter is a day in the 20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 You have been testy lately... Lol We just had one of our cats shaved (she had lots of knots). She is not appreciating this cool shot. Haha sounds sad but funny at the same time. Nights have been cold enough for a bulb in the chicken coop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 NNE thread is the best. Never a mention of a bad or torch pattern coming up. Just always high/low and pics of mtns. It's like they close their eyes during torches and wake up when the pattern changes. Yeah we keep that thread pretty objective, then come into the other threads for the subjective stuff, lol. It's almost like just an observation thread with a couple posts per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just got my new PC in today! Very excited for storm watching this winter. The weather cave is nearly done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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