The_Global_Warmer Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 it's obviously way out there but I have seen this movie before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I agree. But the Euro is so slow with the 2nd round of energy or it's a third round. I dunno. It has periodic pieces of energy ejecting out in the SW flow... but they start to dry up as they head your way. The better chances are down in my neck of the woods and across OK. No big storm systems, just overrunning from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 it's obviously way out there but I have seen this movie before. With the surface frontal zone parked down over LA/MS? 2m/925s are quite cold. Don't let that 850 map fool ya. This pattern can be a monster. For ice storms, that is (especially if that trough doesn't come out in one piece like the models seem intent on doing). The insitu surface air mass in this case is also very dry (Dews from 0-10F). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 There is plenty of guidance that suggests a secondary system is possible along the gradient somewhere in the Great Lakes/Ohio Valley. It's pretty clear there will be an initial strong low in the Northern Plains, probably a weaker one if it becomes an organized low further south and east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnesota Meso Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 anywhere or anyway to animate/loop those images? Love those Not that I know of...sorry. You may want to contact Prinsburg_wx a member at this site as this is where I got the link from, I value my limited PM messages so I don't it use very much, at any rate if you contact him/her please ask if they have GEM snowfall maps etc...and if he/she can share...I agree those maps are awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 to my surprise the Euro nails STL twice. first with a ZR/Sleet event with .6-.7qpf with surface temps in the mid 20s. Ending with 1-2 inches of snow. Then another 3-5" of snow with teens the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 to my surprise the Euro nails STL twice. first with a ZR/Sleet event with .6-.7qpf with surface temps in the mid 20s. Ending with 1-2 inches of snow. Then another 3-5" of snow with teens the next day. Euro appears to nail me with the storm around the 7th with 6"+ of snow. Maybe just maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 lol, that not all. It has another one on the 9th and 10th. Looks like a big ice maker in the Ohio Valley. Tries to drop another foot on me. overall the euro drops 15-18" over me and 20-25" SE of me over Southern IL. Pipe dream. But very rare for the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Seems like Global might need a "Fire Dragon" to deal with all his snow, artificial torch !!! Been watching the auction for another piece of equipment. A early onset of snow might aid in my decision to purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Even the GFS is showing signs of good snow and very cold in the extended. I think the Zzzz's might be coming to a end very shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Euro appears to nail me with the storm around the 7th with 6"+ of snow. Maybe just maybe. I like this 00z Euro for snowfall here. Very sweet solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Looking brutal up in the northern plains. The Euro has parts of MT and ND remaining near or below zero for several days. It will be cold here, but the Euro never plunges the core of the cold down through us, and there won't be any snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 12z GFS now has a major ice storm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 12z GFS now has a major ice storm here. Models are onto something with this second wave of the energy crashing into the PacNW next week. Should get a good baroclinic zone to set up somewhere over this forum territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 zzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Interested to see where the 12z Euro takes this second piece of energy. For once we're dealing with a cold enough airmass that will have just come in from Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I like this 00z Euro for snowfall here. Very sweet solution. I'm kinda concerned about where the pattern might go later December so hopefully we cash in prior to then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I'm kinda concerned about where the pattern might go later December so hopefully we cash in prior to then. long-term suppression concerns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 long-term suppression concerns? I think it's more likely we'd flip to something milder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 From what I am told the euro is pretty epic for STL to LAF With a foot of snow+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 From what I am told the euro is pretty epic for STL to LAF With a foot of snow+ Is that with the wavy front late next week or the D10 mega cutter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Is that with the wavy front late next week or the D10 mega cutter? The front with the secondary. The last wave the euro drops 5-6 inches of snow again from STL to LAF before going over to sleet and ZR. It's a bit North vs the secondary wave on the frontal around day 5-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Weatherbell maps here. Just look at pages 8-10. The system from hour 120-144 drops 10-14" from STL to LAF. http://fox2ch.forumchitchat.com/post/happy-thanksgiving-time-for-serious-winter-watching-6647632?&trail=150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Just an epic run for LAF. Nowhere to go but down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Actually, on second look, something doesn't seem right with that snow map. Thermals look very borderline at best. I wonder if it counts sleet/zr as snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Actually, on second look, something doesn't seem right with that snow map. Thermals look very borderline at best. I wonder if it counts sleet/zr as snow. Ok I figured it out. The run has a total of 10+ for LAF. Friv's post had me thinking that was the total for event #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Ok I figured it out. The run has a total of 10+ for LAF. Friv's post had me thinking that was the total for event #1 Not completely sure but Im guessing the big storm towards the end of the run has enough antecedent cold air to drop down some snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 Not completely sure but Im guessing the big storm towards the end of the run has enough antecedent cold air to drop down some snow? Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 I looked at weatherunderground the 1st wave the wxbell maps are def to high with the snow. Its more like ZR to sleet to snow with a lot of ice a bit of sleet and a half foot of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 This is the best thing for those of us who do not have paid access to free euro stuff. Just search for a major city near you. The 10 day forecast in 6 hr increments http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Michigan/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport/long.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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