Met1985 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I've always been curious about the weather in the highlands of NC. What's your average snowfall/yr? I would think your area and higher up probably does better on average than the majority of the DCA-NYC-BOS I-95 corridor. Ah sorry to get back with you so late. I was just looking back through this thread and saw this. We average anywhere from 40-50 inches per year. Last year we had 42.5 inches and it was a pretty blah winter down here. The Boone coop averaged 39.8" per year at 3300 feet back when it was active. The nearby Banner Elk coop at 3600 feet is still active and averages 41" per year. Grandfather Mountain at 5300 feet averages 55" per year on their coop site. I'm not 100% sure how reliable these coops are...but the Boone one when it was active appears to have kept very good snowfall data, so judging the others off that one, it appears the numbers match up with elevation change. I wouldn't be surprised if a place like Grandfather Mountain got a bit more though...or nearby peaks that might be further WNW to take advantage of upslope a little better. Ya Will the closer you are to the boarder of TN/NC the better your averages are going to be especially with the upslope snows we get. You can drive a half mile down the road and there may be a difference of a foot of snow depending on location and elevation. Kind of like LES off the Great Lakes. You get in one of those bands locally and you can be in a mini blizzard. We had one of our poster last year that lives in Avery County just North of me that got 68 inches. The micro climate her in the mountains is pretty amazing year round. Those NC sites compare well for avg snowfall with places in the Jersey Highlands, though I'd guess the high-elev mt sites would hold snowpack better than NNJ locations at 700-1,000 ft. Yep if we can get sustained cold we can keep snowpack through the whole winter in most cases over 3500 feet. I remember back in 2009-10 we had snow on the ground from December through the end of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Caveats apply. HWW up gusts to 60, good cold shot, first flurries, squalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 HWW up gusts to 60, good cold shot, first flurries, squalls? 2002. Ssta is getting better and better in the pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 2002. Ssta is getting better and better in the pacific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Great disco going on in the Philly forum talking about the pacific right now looking like an el niño pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 image.jpg 2 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Nice mild 11-15 day. Zzzzzzzzz Make the most out of the cold shot Sun-Mon before it warms up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 2002. Ssta is getting better and better in the pacific. Congrats Dendrite, CNH windexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Zzzzzzzzz Make the most out of the cold shot Sun-Mon before it warms up again. Dude you are going to get snowed on yet again, nice upslope look for a day, enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Zzzzzzzzz Make the most out of the cold shot Sun-Mon before it warms up again. It's fine. After we torch later next week it cools off again. Typical November although my guess is the first 2-3 weeks end up AN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 image.jpg Liking the warm pool developing south of Greenland to, its coming together and LOL at the worry warts already . Nov has not even started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Dude you are going to get snowed on yet again, nice upslope look for a day, enjoy. How do the VT hills do upslope-wise on a due north wind? Seems they clean up on the NW/W trajectory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Great disco going on in the Philly forum talking about the pacific right now looking like an el niño pattern slight nino works wonders for the MA folks, hope it happens, up here who cares. Watch this month flip hard going into Dec, they are seeing it too . Its going to evolve . Those guys are certainly brilliant but like the rest of us nobody has LR figured out yet. Too many variables , lets see what shakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 How do the VT hills do upslope-wise on a due north wind? Seems they clean up on the NW/W trajectory. Probably more squally windexy than upslope, lots of instability in this sounding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Sneaky chilly day so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 slight nino works wonders for the MA folks, hope it happens, up here who cares. Watch this month flip hard going into Dec, they are seeing it too . Its going to evolve . Those guys are certainly brilliant but like the rest of us nobody has LR figured out yet. Too many variables , lets see what shakes out.Ya I think after 11/15 we see the pattern flip. Cfs weeklies agree also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Research also argues that early build up of snow cover also can aid in blocking in December. However, it also shows this weakens Jan heading into Feb. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Sneaky chilly day so far. Yep. Pea soup fog here ATTM near CEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Nice mild 11-15 day. yeah. couple of short-lived cool shots mixed in but think the warmth overall is more pronounced/longer duration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 this actually seems like a much more normal step down. I would think we get accumulating snow up here, a few inches before November ends. I prefer normal step downs as opposed to quick leaps into winter - I don't trust those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 How do the VT hills do upslope-wise on a due north wind? Seems they clean up on the NW/W trajectory. Due north winds actually favor the Champlain Valley and western slopes (Smugglers Notch). Jay Peak and Stowe don't do well with all north winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Due north winds actually favor the Champlain Valley and western slopes (Smugglers Notch). Jay Peak and Stowe don't do well with all north winds. I think smuggs cleans up on most all w and nw flow events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Sneaky chilly day so far. Nice gradient across the state this morning. Low-40s at IJD and BDL and low-60s GON to BDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 think it's possible strongest wind tomorrow is right in and around BOS (MQE too obviously). set-up favors that general area and soundings support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 think it's possible strongest wind tomorrow is right in and around BOS (MQE too obviously). set-up favors that general area and soundings support that. it looks lame for anyone not near the water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 think it's possible strongest wind tomorrow is right in and around BOS (MQE too obviously). set-up favors that general area and soundings support that. Hoping to test drive my standby generator at the expense of my neighbors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 it looks lame for anyone not near the water it'll be windy on the shore but i actually think it'll be a bit better a few miles inland over SE MA and up to BOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 it'll be windy on the shore but i actually think it'll be a bit better a few miles inland over SE MA and up to BOS limiting factors look like timing and clouds/precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Nice gradient across the state this morning. Low-40s at IJD and BDL and low-60s GON to BDR. You can see that gradient across central areas as well. BAF is 43° and it's 50° at my place and just east of me and 600' higher, my station in Union is reading 52°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 limiting factors look like timing and clouds/precip yeah agree. core of the jet is offshore by 15z. i'm just saying climo for this area and this type of set-up favors the areas i was talking about, imo. i don't think the high end of the event is all that high. might actually be slightly "better" later in the day as the atmosphere cleans out a bit and mixing depth increases - despite the core of 950-900 mb winds well offshore by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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