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Second Half of October Wx Discussion?


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we go back below normal and the following week looks like we finally have something strong to track, could be an interior elevation fun

 

 

What leads you to believe this? The guidance i'm looking at offers little support to this claim. Scooter even saying its a bit to soon.

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Man this blows.  I was doing some number crunching with monthly sunspot numbers (dating back to 1749) and the December state of the NAO (I will also go ahead and do February, March, and DJF/DJFM) using Hurrell's PC-Based version of the NAO which goes back to 1899. 

 

Anyways, I started by getting all the negative NAO December NAO's from 1899 to 2012.  I found 53 Negative NAO December's since 1899.  

 

For these 53 years, I then looked at the monthly sunspot numbers for each month of the year with the negative NAO.  I wrote down a range, with the first number being the smallest (lowest) sunspot value for that 12-month period, and the second number being the biggest (largest) sunspot value for that 12th month period.

 

From here I then broke down the data as follows;

 

Lowest sunspot numbers for that 12 month period were between 0-100, lowest sunspot numbers 101+, highest sunspot numbers for that 12 month period between 0-100 highest sunspot numbers for that 12 month period 101+.

 

Anyways what I found was that 94.3% of -NAO Decembers occurred when the lowest sunspot numbers for that 12 month period were between 0-20, 5.7% of -NAO Decembers occurred when the lowest sunspot numbers for that 12 month period were greater than or equal to 101.  

 

66% of -NAO Dec's occurred when the highest sunspot values for that 12 month period were between 0-100 and 34% of -NAO Dec's occurred when the highest sunspot numbers for that period were >101.  

 

I got pretty excited doing that...then I went to work on +NAO December.  I found 61 +NAO December's between 1899-2012.

 

Anyways, doing the same method, 88.5% of +NAO Decembers also occurred when the lowest sunspot numbers for that 12-month period were between 0-100 and 65.6% of +NAO Dec's occurred when the highest sunspot numbers for that 12 month period were >101.  

 

The data set breakdown is nearly identical for +/- NAO December's.

 

Going to try some different methods now.  

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What leads you to believe this? The guidance i'm looking at offers little support to this claim. Scooter even saying its a bit to soon.

interior elevations in New England not NJ and 11-15 day ENS, pattern recognition, teleconnections, rolling forward analogs. Besides that you have stated you don't pay attention to anything I say so please don't I would rather not interact with you.
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interior elevations in New England not NJ and 11-15 day ENS, pattern recognition, teleconnections, rolling forward analogs. Besides that you have stated you don't pay attention to anything I say so please don't I would rather not interact with you.

 

Those rolling foward analogs seem to change every other day, i would not put much stock in them. I think the pattern going forward offers little hope for any interior fun. Still a little to early also....

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What leads you to believe this? The guidance i'm looking at offers little support to this claim. Scooter even saying its a bit to soon.

I meant that you shouldn't expect it so soon. Of course you can have events sneak up on you, but most of these won't be seen 10+ days out. At times there looked like a potential for at least interior stuff, but I would not expect anything yet.

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I meant that you shouldn't expect it so soon. Of course you can have events sneak up on you, but most of these won't be seen 10+ days out. At times there looked like a potential for at least interior stuff, but I would not expect anything yet.

 

Oh okay,  Do you think Boston has a shot at 32 tuesday night? Ewr was down to 33 last night, while NYC was 41. The heat island kills them.

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Just saying looked like nothing special. Maybe near to slightly below. 

 

Normal in November's is reasonably good.

 

It was a snowy day up at SLK based on these observations...

First 1/2sm obs I've seen this year from an ASOS. We got down to 0.75sm this morning in snow at MVL, but couldn't get all the way to moderate.

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Per the "hated" weather terms thread, that's nearly whiteout conditions.

 

Have folks backed off the thoughts they had yesterday for a cold Tuesday/night?  BOX didn't have it yesterday and they don't have it there today either.  They're forecasting Monday night on the chilly side, though.

 

Mild morning.

 

40.2/39

 

Let's hope the Friday scenarios play out for the trick-or-treaters. BOX says so.

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Had to post this for all the picnic table comments... this isn't "my" 4k picnic table, but it looks like Whiteface in the Adirondacks has a picnic table that'll work for now...

 

This past week has been a good "storm cycle" (I guess you could call it that with several rounds of energy moving through since Wednesday) for the higher elevations of the Adirondacks and Greens with meso-scale mixed with synoptic snows.

 

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AWT from three dys ago. Euro also has flakes for some on Wednesday.

Is it Monday or Tuesday night that's the coldest? Looking like Tuesday morning is coldest of the season, right?

BTV is going full bore cold on Monday night..,teens to low 20s, with even some single digits at like SLK. Not bad for October.

"Monday night will be very cold with clearing skies and mainly light winds creating a good radiational cooling night...min temperatures will be in the teens to low 20s with some single digits in the coldest spots of the dacks."

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Is it Monday or Tuesday night that's the coldest? Looking like Tuesday morning is coldest of the season, right?

BTV is going full bore cold on Monday night..,teens to low 20s, with even some single digits at like SLK. Not bad for October.

"Monday night will be very cold with clearing skies and mainly light winds creating a good radiational cooling night...min temperatures will be in the teens to low 20s with some single digits in the coldest spots of the dacks."

Tasty
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Monday night may be coldest for those typical CAA areas especially north of CT. Tuesday night is a radiator special. Maybe a hair warmer than first thought yesterday but it be chilly Tuesday and even Wednesday. Then we torch late week.

 

I'm not sure about Tuesday night anymore.... may bring in a fairly thick deck of mid/high level clouds? 

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