Bostonseminole Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Severe tst watch extended eastward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Please oh please let this show up in the LSR. Should've have stayed on Winni... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Heavy rain falling here now, no thunder and some gusty winds. Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Should've have stayed on Winni... Of course they get a nice line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Dangerous flying foliage, 69F. Don't minimize it. A good maple leaf could take out an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 God forbid I write something that's not on topic.. "Had" a full leaved Beachwood, beautiful yellow completely stripped. Now denuded to branch and twig. Highest IMBY gust ~30mph at 15:00 yeah stripped today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Of course they get a nice line. Nice bow heading into Conway. Actually a little meso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 How does the stuff approaching Union (MA/CT Line) look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 How does the stuff approaching Union (MA/CT Line) look? Pretty meh. It's falling apart and moving north...modeled well actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 As expected here, poof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 CON with a gust to 57 mph outside of a warning. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 that was pretty intense as it passed here can't really estimate winds, but it was noisy and trees were really bending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 that was pretty intense as it passed here can't really estimate winds, but it was noisy and trees were really bending Even though that part of the line is getting left behind by the forcing, the showers are enough to mix down the LLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Not bad for October 7th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 ORH 41kts. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The stuff ahead of the fropa was more interesting than the main event here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Meh is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The stuff ahead of the fropa was more interesting than the main event hereyeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Wouldn't HWW have been more appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Wouldn't HWW have been more appropriate? Not necessarily...while winds ahead of the line were strong (still below HWW criteria) the winds generated down associated with the line which caused damage were convective in nature which is why you wouldn't go HWW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Not necessarily...while winds ahead of the line were strong (still below HWW criteria) the winds generated down associated with the line which caused damage were convective in nature which is why you wouldn't go HWW. I'm in agreement here. I know this discussion comes up all the time with the non-lightning producing squall line. The winds are being mixed down by a convective squall line, not mechanical mixing of the LLJ. In my opinion, the short term convective products make the most sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I'm in agreement here. I know this discussion comes up all the time with the non-lightning producing squall line. The winds are being mixed down by a convective squall line, not mechanical mixing of the LLJ. In my opinion, the short term convective products make the most sense. makes technical sense but user confusion. I have seen some FB posts about them missing the TSTORMS but it was windy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I'm in agreement here. I know this discussion comes up all the time with the non-lightning producing squall line. The winds are being mixed down by a convective squall line, not mechanical mixing of the LLJ. In my opinion, the short term convective products make the most sense. These types of scenarios can kind of trick people too b/c you would think the strongest winds should occur right under the main line but that hardly ever is the case. The majority of the time, the strongest winds will be right out ahead of the leading edge and once you get into the rain cooled air, the winds aloft are much more difficult to mix down. This is also usually the case in regular squall lines as well, however, with the more deeper convection (dealing with richer Cape values) you get into microburst/macroburst potential which is when you get damaging winds in the heart of the squall). These low topped lines are such a tease though b/c it looks threatening but once you get into that rain, it's much more difficult to get into the stronger winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 makes technical sense but user confusion. I have seen some FB posts about them missing the TSTORMS but it was windy. I can see how it would certainly generate public confusion, however, this is when I think the forecaster has to stress the point that there will be very little, if any, thunder and just briefly explain (I know hard to do ) the process is just the same as with summer storms except there will be little thunder/lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I can see how it would certainly generate public confusion, however, this is when I think the forecaster has to stress the point that there will be very little, if any, thunder and just briefly explain (I know hard to do ) the process is just the same as with summer storms except there will be little thunder/lightningexcept every body gets text alerts on their phones that say severe Tstorm warning, really nbd was just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 makes technical sense but user confusion. I have seen some FB posts about them missing the TSTORMS but it was windy. Well obviously there is a difference between trees down ahead of the line and trees down with it. There was even disagreement among offices as to how to handle this watch today. You'll be able to tell from looking at the LSRs what the philosophy of the day was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Well obviously there is a difference between trees down ahead of the line and trees down with it. There was even disagreement among offices as to how to handle this watch today. You'll be able to tell from looking at the LSRs what the philosophy of the day was. I always like seeing tstm vs non-tstm wind damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 You gotta stay the course. People will claim not to see lightning, yet the line knocked a tree through their Buick. I'm sure the NWS is aware of this, but in the end, warning issuance with the hopeful help of media explaining there may be little lightning but strong winds is the hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 except every body gets text alerts on their phones that say severe Tstorm warning, really nbd was just wondering The problem mostly stems from the fact that people still think we issue SVRs based on lightning. When in reality we only care about lightning in the cases where it is prolific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I always like seeing tstm vs non-tstm wind damage. Just peek at the SPC reports page, you'll see a curious gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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