nyblizz44 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 This is going to be a scar one way or another. I really hope he is OK. Edds looked like he was too close to the water to me given the pics he posted on Twitter but I ran from El Reno when it was in front of me so I dunno. Im afraid the biggest tell tale sign something is wrong is his last tweet ( well over 24 hrs ago and then NOTHING since). Pray for him Jim Edds @ExtremeStorms7 Nov 981.4 mb at 6:05am, going out to shoot. Be back in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 snap shot from that video: Looks similar to a high end tornado damage especially in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 just hoping comm lines are down. ANyone know if satellite comms were on josh's team equipment? or do they usually chase without them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarck Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Im afraid the biggest tell tale sign something is wrong is his last tweet ( well over 24 hrs ago and then NOTHING since). Pray for him Jim Edds @ExtremeStorms7 Nov 981.4 mb at 6:05am, going out to shoot. Be back in a bit. It's within 30 mins of Josh's last post on Facebook. Sounds more to me like that's about the time power was cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensō Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Assuming all is well, would we expect to hear from them yet anyhow? I really don't know, but I'd assume it isn't easy to get communications out of an area that's just been devastated by a typhoon, especially in the first 24-48 hours. And to wxmann's point, I think we all know how things get exaggerated in the initial period after a disaster. I have no doubt there's massive damage, but I think the best policy is to take everything with a grain of salt until there's proof/corroboration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Assuming all is well, would we expect to hear from them yet anyhow? I really don't know, but I'd assume it isn't easy to get communications out of an area that's just been devastated by a typhoon, especially in the first 24-48 hours. And to wxmann's point, I think we all know how things get exaggerated in the initial period after a disaster. I have no doubt there's massive damage, but I think the best policy is to take everything with a grain of salt until there's proof/corroboration. I wouldn't really have expected to hear from them yet, but for sure the media is trying to get in touch with at least some of them for footage etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 It is a bit disconcerting hearing these reports but without power, cell and just the first responders getting into the area 30 hours after the storm I would not expect to hear from Josh. I am sure he picked a concrete building and is safe. I don't think he has ever had a chase where he has been stranded without food and water for many days and this chase will probably be his first experience of really dealing with a horrendous situation that few of us will ever go through. I am sure with such a large population without drinking water and little food he is going to have quite an unbelievable story to tell, a true life or death situation, seeing dead bodies and complete devastation. He will probably not get home for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I made the fourth hand report stuff invisible. Try to keep it to the facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I made the fourth hand report stuff invisible. Try to keep it to the facts...Thanks, I don't get CNN international and was wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendy Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 From Davao City Facebook page: Our latest report on tacloban: numerous people are feared dead after the astrodome sports complex which served as a shelter collapsed with lots of evacuees inside. There was a tsunami-like effect and it is reported that a ship of undetermined size was washed on top of the gaisano supermarket. Two truckloads of army soldiers from catb was met with surging flood, was washed away. Only two soldiers survived. Two housing projects near the San Juanico bridge were flooded.water in the city proper was reported to have reached at least 10 feet..vehicles were washed away like match boxes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 It is a bit disconcerting hearing these reports but without power, cell and just the first responders getting into the area 30 hours after the storm I would not expect to hear from Josh. I am sure he picked a concrete building and is safe. I don't think he has ever had a chase where he has been stranded without food and water for many days and this chase will probably be his first experience of really dealing with a horrendous situation that few of us will ever go through. I am sure with such a large population without drinking water and little food he is going to have quite an unbelievable story to tell, a true life or death situation, seeing dead bodies and complete devastation. He will probably not get home for some time. I'm concerned about the degree of the surge, being only 2 blocks downstream from the bay and confined to a 2 story building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyblizz44 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 More than 100 bodies CONFIRMED by CNN ( In street only ...They hvent checked houses & Surge said to reach TWO STORIES HIGH) http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/08/world/asia/philippines-typhoon-haiyan/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Assuming all is well, would we expect to hear from them yet anyhow? I really don't know, but I'd assume it isn't easy to get communications out of an area that's just been devastated by a typhoon, especially in the first 24-48 hours. And to wxmann's point, I think we all know how things get exaggerated in the initial period after a disaster. I have no doubt there's massive damage, but I think the best policy is to take everything with a grain of salt until there's proof/corroboration. I totally agree. I choose to believe the reason we haven't heard anything is a direct result of the lack of communications. As I noted in an earlier post, there was no communications available to me for more than 48 hours after Katrina. It's also not unusual for reporters to exaggerate things-being in a competitive and sensationalistic business. In time, we will know the true extent of the damage, and I suspect hear from Josh, as well. I also suspect he will have a harrowing tale, but will be physically okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Thanks, I don't get CNN international and was wondering some comment on jeff masters blog with no other sourcing anywhere seems unworthy of heavy debate for now. people can go there to read it if critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Josh chased Dean correct? I remember him saying that it was the only time he had ever felt scared on a chase before. That he thought to himself, "I got too cocky, I'm dead." Prayers for him and his crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott747 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 We both talked with Josh about the surge and he was well prepared. I understand the concern but let's not bury them quite so soon..... He should be fine from surge unless it tops 50 ft. I told him about this last time I talked to him and regards to the funneling effect of the bay. He said his hotel was 30 ft ASL and they had another 40 feet of hotel (concrete) living space on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Josh chased Dean correct? I remember him saying that it was the only time he had ever felt scared on a chase before. That he thought to himself, "I got too cocky, I'm dead." Prayers for him and his crew. yes.. CWG: Obviously, doing what you do, the hope is to get to the worst a hurricane has to offer. But, to an outside observer such as myself, I'd be fearful of that period—potentially several hours long—where your decision-making is tested, possibly with your life. How scary is it as the core of a hurricane bears down on you and then continues for a lengthy period? Have you ever been fearful you wouldn't make it out alive or without harm? JM: Oh, yeah. Hurricane Dean of 2007. I chased it to Chetumal, a small, exposed Mexican city on a remote part of the Yucatan. As the hurricane approached the city, it strengthened into this monster Category 5—at the top of the intensity scale—with winds of 175 mph. Chetumal was completely flattened by another Category 5 in 1955, and I started to feel spooked—like the whole chase was a fatal mistake. I was literally getting short of breath over it. At the very last second, the cyclone wobbled north, and the eyewall missed the downtown area (where I was) by a couple of miles. Even so, the city was pounded very hard, with widespread destruction. I can’t imagine what would have happened if it come a few miles further south. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/hurricane-chasing-while-most-run-from-the-storm-icyclone-seeks-out-its-core/2012/08/26/31570dfa-df57-11e1-a19c-fcfa365396c8_blog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 It amazes me how densely packed those shanties are right on the water there in Tacloban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 We both talked with Josh about the surge and he was well prepared. Google Earth puts it at 24 feet if they were at Hotel Alejandro still. I mean, minor difference, but every foot could matter I guess. Caveat, dunno if Google Earth is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 It amazes me how densely packed those shanties are right on the water there in Tacloban. Looking at that pic, one has to wonder how any of those "shanties" were left standing. Looks as though a category two TC would completely demolish them. Definitely, not the best place to be in a severe Typhoon. I still pray and truly believe they're physically okay. To that point, the videos being posted show countless residents walking around having survived this storm in good physical condition. That should be another encouraging sign in regards to Josh's and James' physical well-being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensō Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I've cross-checked elevations for a few spots (mostly in the US) on Google Earth in the past and they were generally within 1-5', but sometimes off by as much as ~10'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Did Hurricane Dean hit a rather unpopulated area? Dean also looked flawless on satellite, so I'm surprised the impacts weren't worse than what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Google Earth puts it at 24 feet if they were at Hotel Alejandro still. I mean, minor difference, but every foot could matter I guess. Caveat, dunno if Google Earth is accurate. The wind had to have done a number on the hotel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Did Hurricane Dean hit a rather unpopulated area? Dean also looked flawless on satellite, so I'm surprised the impacts weren't worse than what I've read. If I recall, Josh was well outside of the eye in a not so populated place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Man so we are in the position of very rightly being concerned about his well being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I would like to find the raw footage shown beginning at 1:52 in this . Those are some serious winds in that clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I've cross-checked elevations for a few spots (mostly in the US) on Google Earth in the past and they were generally within 1-5', but sometimes off by as much as ~10'. It's interesting City Hall is on a little mound above 50' per Google Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I've cross-checked elevations for a few spots (mostly in the US) on Google Earth in the past and they were generally within 1-5', but sometimes off by as much as ~10'. Well we don't know how high the surge was so it's still a guess. 35ft with waves on top is certainly possible, 40' is probably pushing it. Scott said he thought the exterior of the hotel was still standing, so that's good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I hope they carried a large number of water purification tablets because aid will be slow to arrive. The "civilized" stomachs of US folks will quickly succumb to any number of not so nice aliments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 If I recall, Josh was well outside of the eye in a not so populated place. I would have expected more fatalities where the eye did make landfall... and there didn't seem to be an incredible amount from what I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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