Coach McGuirk Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I believe reanalysis suggests Camille's maximum sustained winds were probably somewhere around 150 mph at landfall. I also don't think the swath of Haiyan's most intense wind damage will be especially wide. I do think we're going to see some very significant wind damage in some places (Guiuan?) There is going to be extensive wind and surge damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I believe reanalysis suggests Camille's maximum sustained winds were probably somewhere around 150 mph at landfall. I also don't think the swath of Haiyan's most intense wind damage will be especially wide. I do think we're going to see some very significant wind damage in some places (Guiuan?) The reanalysis has not been completed on Camille. It is currently listed as the strongest hurricane to make U.S. landfall (the Labor Day hurricane of 1935 was revised to 185 mph at landfall). http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/data_sub/reanalysis_archive.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 One thing that also has to be taken into consideration when contemplating the amount of wind damage that's occurred is the fact that many, if not most, of the buildings in the region are very poorly constructed. It's not as if there is a genuine 1 to 1 ratio on the building integrity between these structures and the typical ones we have in our coastal counties. For example, a category three Typhoon will cause exponentially much more wind damage there, than an equivalent strength hurricane would here. The point being is that it's far more dangerous for the residents in these porous areas,than essentially anywhere in the U.S. The same principle applies when trying to make an accurate assessment of just how intense the winds were, in a specific area, based simply on the amount of structural damage to buildings in these areas, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Tacloban: 'Barely any houses standing' http://www.rappler.com/nation/43285-initial-reports-damage-tacloban-city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 For the aforementioned reason alone, it's a given that there is going to be a wide envelope of extensive and extreme damage to structures, just based on wind alone-not even accounting for the devastating storm surge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Chad Meyers of CNN reporting 50 ft of surge, checking around now to see where he got the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Chad Meyers of CNN reporting 50 ft of surge, checking around now to see where he got the info Doesn't sounds realistic. Highest credible numbers I have heard is 25-30 ft. obviously going to be some incorrect info out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 not sure if this was linked already here but good read Haiyan's Surge May Have Been Highest in East Asia History http://stormsurge2010.blogspot.com/2013/11/haiyans-surge-may-have-been-highest-in.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Doesn't sounds realistic. Highest credible numbers I have heard is 25-30 ft. obviously going to be some incorrect info out there.Let's hope so. Would think he got that from a military source. Read Ian's link above about the devastation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Reading Ian's link, it states that most homes were destroyed by fallen trees, something else that makes this area more susceptible to catastrophic structural damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Tacloban: 'Barely any houses standing' http://www.rappler.com/nation/43285-initial-reports-damage-tacloban-cityDamn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensō Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 According to TWC producer: Christina Glowacki @producerxtina6m NEW INFO: At least 100 dead after typhoon #Haiyan hits #Philippines. Bodies are reportedly lying in the streets of Tacloban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 According to TWC producer: Christina Glowacki @producerxtina6m NEW INFO: At least 100 dead after typhoon #Haiyan hits #Philippines. Bodies are reportedly lying in the streets of Tacloban. From Ian's link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I fear when they get to East Samar nothing will be left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Something I was thinking regarding the surge, all the videos we saw ended before the eye made landfall, winds would switched direction from E to SE soon after landfall pushing a higher surge into the channel and hence into the city. Somewhat comparable to what happened in NYC with Sandy, where the winds shifted following landfall in NJ rapidly pushing the surge in at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I fear when they get to East Samar nothing will be left. probably not with that amount of storm surge and wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 15m RT @ericfisher: "Nothing left of Talcoban airport but the runway." - http://bit.ly/17kVrqS #Haiyan h/t @BMcNoldy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendy Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Reporter on CNN now has just arrived in Tacloban. She says every tree is either toppled or broken at the trunk, with the bark stripped off. The airport is completely gone, except for the runway. She has seen a couple of dead bodies, but also many people walking around looking for food and water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Tacloban: 'Barely any houses standing' http://www.rappler.com/nation/43285-initial-reports-damage-tacloban-city Just trying to envision what it would have been like for Josh there at it's peak. Don't like the visions that are coming to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Just trying to envision what it would have been like for Josh there at it's peak. Don't like the visions that are coming to me. I wonder if Josh met up with these two while there... hope all of them are okay Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 22m Nothing from him or @typhoonfury in more than 24 hrs. Hoping they're ok. MT @ksrgatorfn: any word on the status of @ExtremeStorms ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Just trying to envision what it would have been like for Josh there at it's peak. Don't like the visions that are coming to me.no man, brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I wonder if Josh met up with these two while there... hope all of them are okay Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 22m Nothing from him or @typhoonfury in more than 24 hrs. Hoping they're ok. MT @ksrgatorfn: any word on the status of @ExtremeStorms ? that's who is was with, read back there is a pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Reporter on CNN now has just arrived in Tacloban. She says every tree is either toppled or broken at the trunk, with the bark stripped off. The airport is completely gone, except for the runway. She has seen a couple of dead bodies, but also many people walking around looking for food and water.bark stripping F4 winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 really hoping we hear from him soon. pretty worried about how they are faring in the aftermath with little food/clean water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 bark stripping F4 winds I was waiting for a bark stripping report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 15m RT @ericfisher: "Nothing left of Talcoban airport but the runway." - http://bit.ly/17kVrqS #Haiyan h/t @BMcNoldy Considering the airport there was at roughly 3m above sea level, this is not shocking at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyewall2005 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Dear lord.. http://youtu.be/KmjwaYxqP_4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Dear lord.. http://youtu.be/KmjwaYxqP_4 snap shot from that video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Just trying to envision what it would have been like for Josh there at it's peak. Don't like the visions that are coming to me. This is going to be a scar one way or another. I really hope he is OK. Edds looked like he was too close to the water to me given the pics he posted on Twitter but I ran from El Reno when it was in front of me so I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewxmann Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I don't know about the whole Tacloban being gone reports. We had images posted on Twitter from Tacloban during the event. I think it's entirely conceivable parts of the coastline got entirely wiped out by the surge, where the incident angle of winds was favorable to drive a surge far inland. But probably not the entire city. That said, given these reports, it's slightly concerning that we haven't heard from Josh, Edds, et al. and that CNN crew there, now that the storm is 24 hours past. Hope they are okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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