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October Banter and discussion


CoastalWx

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We're really only 22 days away from fair game.    We've had some fluky October flakes and one bomb with increased frequency over the last 5 years, but that aside, for me it is just about November 1 through April 15 for us here, with obviously dimmed potential at either end of that date range.  

 

I hate April ... different discussion.  March snows are futile to me, but since some of the biggest historic bombs have occurred in that month, you have to give a special shout out there.   I have also seen some impressive Novembers enough to include the pre Turkey day period after Halloween. 

 

I think this particular November has a chance to over-perform looking at the balance of long range teleconnector tendencies, combined with timing the global circulation appeal

 

 

I love me some November snow, but it rarely sticks around longer than a few days unless its near or after Turkey Day. Even though each month has a different "feel" (heading into winter vs exiting), March snows are much more robust and stick around longer...even with increased sun angles...it is simply a colder month than November...by a lot too (6F on average).

 

That said, I'm hoping for some T-day snow this year. I love snow on the ground for Thanksgiving. We had white Thanksgivings in 1985, 1986, 1989, 1994, 1996, 2002, and 2005....but have been shutout since then.

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I love me some November snow, but it rarely sticks around longer than a few days unless its near or after Turkey Day. Even though each month has a different "feel" (heading into winter vs exiting), March snows are much more robust and stick around longer...even with increased sun angles...it is simply a colder month than November...by a lot too (6F on average).

 

That said, I'm hoping for some T-day snow this year. I love snow on the ground for Thanksgiving. We had white Thanksgivings in 1985, 1986, 1989, 1994, 1996, 2002, and 2005....but have been shutout since then.

Had a decent one here in the valley during the early 70's. Might have been 71 or 72. I can remember having to push my father's car on the street after it got stuck bringing the relatives over for turkey.

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I love me some November snow, but it rarely sticks around longer than a few days unless its near or after Turkey Day. Even though each month has a different "feel" (heading into winter vs exiting), March snows are much more robust and stick around longer...even with increased sun angles...it is simply a colder month than November...by a lot too (6F on average).

 

That said, I'm hoping for some T-day snow this year. I love snow on the ground for Thanksgiving. We had white Thanksgivings in 1985, 1986, 1989, 1994, 1996, 2002, and 2005....but have been shutout since then.

 

 

I thought November, 1995 was white, too -- I know it was up in the Merrimack Valley at UML, but I am not sure how far to the SW the land snow crept before the more important cold of December set in that year.   

 

That was incredible.  After a warmish first half of October, there seemed to be a bit of a gradient between central New England and say CT and RI.   Late October into early November got chilly at night, with highs in the low 40s along Rt 2 over to UML.   The Pawtucket dam trickle-through waters started freezing into long cycles, and I noted that they would survive the sunny chilly afternoons, being that the dam faces N and so is always shaded.   

 

But it was more than that.  Something just "felt" like winter wanted in that year.  Maybe the colors on the trees were particularly vibrant and early (like this year?)  Not sure what it is, but there was something intuitive about the appeal of that autumn that lended to winter.  

 

Then in (I think) it was the 2nd week of November, there was a sleet and snow event.   I think it was more northern Mass, though.   But it laid a small pack and it was no turning back.  We had contiguous snow on the ground until the mega thaw of late Jan when those two powerful cutters finally brought some winter to Minnesota.  

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my buddy and I saw aurora last night... It wasn't as vivid as this to the unaided eye, but it you could still make it out faintly.  This was a camera shot with open exposure: 

 

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For those who don't venture in the great white north of the NNE thread. VIIRS captured the aurora last night on the day/night band.

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I thought November, 1995 was white, too -- I know it was up in the Merrimack Valley at UML, but I am not sure how far to the SW the land snow crept before the more important cold of December set in that year.   

 

That was incredible.  After a warmish first half of October, there seemed to be a bit of a gradient between central New England and say CT and RI.   Late October into early November got chilly at night, with highs in the low 40s along Rt 2 over to UML.   The Pawtucket dam trickle-through waters started freezing into long cycles, and I noted that they would survive the sunny chilly afternoons, being that the dam faces N and so is always shaded.   

 

But it was more than that.  Something just "felt" like winter wanted in that year.  Maybe the colors on the trees were particularly vibrant and early (like this year?)  Not sure what it is, but there was something intuitive about the appeal of that autumn that lended to winter.  

 

Then in (I think) it was the 2nd week of November, there was a sleet and snow event.   I think it was more northern Mass, though.   But it laid a small pack and it was no turning back.  We had contiguous snow on the ground until the mega thaw of late Jan when those two powerful cutters finally brought some winter to Minnesota.  

 

 

The November 1995 snow was after T-day...specifically 11/29/95....we had an event before that around 11/13 but it was wiped out by the Hudson Valley cutter on Nov 14-15, 1995. We then waited 2 weeks for that 11/29 snow event which covered the ground for good until late that winter (or for those spots that saw grass in the late Jan '96 torch)

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Yup w/o a doubt..Thats a cold, dry high up there..funneling down chilly air. If it's cloudy ..it aint getting much past 50 at best

Should be interesting to watch....the forecast up here in the mountains is for 65-70F all weekend without a cloud in the sky. The high isn't that cold, lol. I wonder if you guys at 20F colder if you're expecting 40s for highs.

Friday

Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds.

Friday Night

Clear. Lows in the mid 40s. Light and variable winds.

Saturday

Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s.

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