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With the blocking it's only gonna come north so far. If this was winter we'd be saying congrats Philly south

 

I'm not sure we've ever heard you say "congrats Philly" in a winter storm threat...

 

There's always a way or a reason why a snowstorm should shift north/south/east/west to Tolland ;)

 

Trolling aside, looks like your seasons in seasons should be coming more true in about 10 days.

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It's an odd pattern...  The larger -scaled picture features a strong -PNAP, which in any other scenario would promote a period of above to well-above norms.  But that weakly closed/stranded 500mb vortex over the MA blocks the high from otherwise settling into the more typical position for this sort of ridging, into the Bermuda structure.    

 

As a result ...vastly different sensible weather appeal than at first glance.   Although, I could almost see it being nice in S NH being closer to a narrow ridge axis, while RI is in a deeper E flow with murk to contend with. 

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Autumn crispies lurk in the la-la range... 

 

Seeing a longer term trend for rising PNA and falling NAO.   Also, the operational GFS has on a couple of recent run built up a bona fide -EPO ridge.  Perhaps not a lot of deterministic value, but the grumblings are out there.   

 

The operational Euro has a low-trustworthy tendency to raise heights in the NE Pac in it's extended.   May not be much ... but it is better then nothing if you are a cold weather enthusiast.  

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Going to be cold tonight with no clouds and diminishing gradient.... dews have fallen to around freezing up here and it looks like an interesting patchwork of frost/freeze advisories have been issued.

 

This time of year is always interesting with who has already had a freeze, where the climo average dates have passed, etc... some folks under it some not.

 

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Going to be cold tonight with no clouds and diminishing gradient.... dews have fallen to around freezing up here and it looks like an interesting patchwork of frost/freeze advisories have been issued.

 

This time of year is always interesting with who has already had a freeze, where the climo average dates have passed, etc... some folks under it some not.

 

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This is why we didn't post an image of headlines to Facebook. It looks like garbage...ha

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This is why we didn't post an image of headlines to Facebook. It looks like garbage...ha

 

Likely way too confusing to the general public, lol.

 

You guys seem to have more patchwork than BTV... its easier to tell people its just the Champlain Valley that still is growing, but trying to say why one mountain zone has a freeze and another doesn't is a little harder.

 

What's interesting though is I don't remember our growing season here "officially" ending... we hit 31F one morning but the public statement only listed the Adirondacks and far NE VT as having the growing season ending.  Then it got warm again.  However, we have certainly passed the average dates of frost/freeze, so they may be going off climo dates rather than whether or not there's been a hard freeze in all those counties.

 

No leaves left... stick season with just brown mountainsides.  Would be hard to issue frost advisories for some of these zones seeing as nothing is really growing anyway, even if we haven't had a real widespread hard freeze (rather than touching 31F for a half hour at 6am).  Time stamp on this might as well say November 8th instead of October 8th.

 

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Likely way too confusing to the general public, lol.

 

You guys seem to have more patchwork than BTV... its easier to tell people its just the Champlain Valley that still is growing, but trying to say why one mountain zone has a freeze and another doesn't is a little harder.

 

What's interesting though is I don't remember our growing season here "officially" ending... we hit 31F one morning but the public statement only listed the Adirondacks and far NE VT as having the growing season ending.  Then it got warm again.  However, we have certainly passed the average dates of frost/freeze, so they may be going off climo dates rather than whether or not there's been a hard freeze in all those counties.

 

No leaves left... stick season with just brown mountainsides.  Would be hard to issue frost advisories for some of these zones seeing as nothing is really growing anyway, even if we haven't had a real widespread hard freeze (rather than touching 31F for a half hour at 6am).  Time stamp on this might as well say November 8th instead of October 8th.

 

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That's generally the way it works, keeping issuing until a hard freeze or climo dates have passed. Which ever comes first.

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Wow Scott , that was today? Strip city

 

Yeah that view won't change much over the next month unless it turns white... there's really no leaves left on the mountain.  Last year it snowed on this date and looking back at my photos, there was definitely more foliage still on the trees in that 1,000ft-2,500ft band.  So apparently we are early this year. 

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That's generally the way it works, keeping issuing until a hard freeze or climo dates have passed. Which ever comes first.

 

I'm surprised you guys haven't hit the climo dates for like Rumford, Jackman, Rangley, etc. 

 

That was sort of what got me thinking about it... cause those areas I would think come before the dates for this area.

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I'm surprised you guys haven't hit the climo dates for like Rumford, Jackman, Rangley, etc. 

 

That was sort of what got me thinking about it... cause those areas I would think come before the dates for this area.

 

Believe it or not, but we don't end our program until the hard freeze occurs. We have no climo built in, which I don't necessarily agree with. The only climo we use is to start the program up in May with average last freeze dates.

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Interesting temp trends over the past 5 weeks...

 

BTV's average during the whole month of September was 70.6F.  The average in the first week of October was 71.6F.  So we are going backwards and its actually gotten warmer from what we experienced in September.

 

BOS has had the same average of 73.0F for high temps all of September as they have the first week of October, too. 

 

I looked at BDL, ORH, and MVL and all three of those have average high temperatures less than 1 degree different than the average highs for the entire month of September.

 

Pretty interesting considering some of the 80s and even 90F+ days we had in early September and again that hot spell in mid-September.  Shows just how much of a torch October has been so far.  Pretty much everyone in New England is like +6 to +9 on the month after 7 days.

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