radarman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Must have been a strong fire to see it on radar at that distance. I've found you need very strong updrafts and large chunks of ash, which by the accounts there have been in Quincy. Grass fires are only seen well very close or with a W band radar or something. This was from a huge mill fire in Holyoke... (sorry about all the interference) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 If there's not a little worry and concern creeping into your mind about winter then more power to you. It's not time to panic or go crazy, but a little worry should start to enter the conversation Were you worried about not seeing heat and humidity this past summer when it was snowing on Memorial Day Weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 nice blizzard over the eastern dakotas late week. Their winter ended in mid-May and now they might see a substantial snow event on Oct 4-5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Their winter ended in mid-May and now they might see a substantial snow event on Oct 4-5th. that's a nasty storm up there on the euro. assuming the lowest levels are cold enough - which they likely are - that's probably a blizzard...with a lot of precip too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 that's a nasty storm up there on the euro. assuming the lowest levels are cold enough - which they likely are - that's probably a blizzard...with a lot of precip too. Epic pattern for Northern Cascades over to Yellowstone too for snow. They are going to have an awesome snow pack there for so early in the season. They often get snow anyway this time of the year, but this is like 6-8 feet of snow in a week or less going back to middle of last week...perhaps more for the highest spots. OP Euro also now going big +PNA ridge now at the end of its run in clown range. That would change up the middle-October look to much colder if it happened. Not biting though until ensembles start to support it.,...they hinted at a bit of retrogression at D13-15, but not the D8-10 range like the OP run has today at 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Their winter ended in mid-May and now they might see a substantial snow event on Oct 4-5th. They get some phenomenal early and late season storms...the problem is the three months in mid-winter with the suppressed jet and arctic cold with ground blizzards. They can get very dry and boring for a good chunk of the winter, but very exciting in the transition seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 They get some phenomenal early and late season storms...the problem is the three months in mid-winter with the suppressed jet and arctic cold with ground blizzards. They can get very dry and boring for a good chunk of the winter, but very exciting in the transition seasons. It's toaster bath material mid-winter. I made the trip for Cornell hockey when they played NoDak in November of 2008, I couldn't imagine January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 OP Euro also now going big +PNA ridge now at the end of its run in clown range. That would change up the middle-October look to much colder if it happened. Not biting though until ensembles start to support it.,...they hinted at a bit of retrogression at D13-15, but not the D8-10 range like the OP run has today at 12z. Seems like GFS ens like the idea a bit as well after day 11 as an Aleutian low becomes the dominant feature and rips up heights downstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Seems like GFS ens like the idea a bit as well after day 11 as an Aleutian low becomes the dominant feature and rips up heights downstream. Yeah they are more bullish than EC ensembles for how soon they do it...but its possible that taking both into account would be hinting at a colder pattern after the first two weeks of October for us. The cold before that is limited to the northern plains and perhaps the GL. 12z GEFS are def a big shift versus the earlier runs. The 00z Euro ens showed a muted version of it but later in the period closer to D14-15. So its far out on that suite...we'll have to see how they look over the next several days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I moved the more analytical posts to the weather thread... banter along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah they are more bullish than EC ensembles for how soon they do it...but its possible that taking both into account would be hinting at a colder pattern after the first two weeks of October for us. The cold before that is limited to the northern plains and perhaps the GL. 12z GEFS are def a big shift versus the earlier runs. The 00z Euro ens showed a muted version of it but later in the period closer to D14-15. So its far out on that suite...we'll have to see how they look over the next several days. You're right of course it's so far out we shouldn't get wrapped up in the details, but what it's not suggesting is any help from the Atlantic meaning even if the +PNA came to pass there's no guarantee we don't see something drop down and lift out west of us. Pattern wise it would be a step up IMO as the amplification alone is a positive sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Ha ha, NCEP : "...A BRIEF CHANGEOVER OF PRECIPITATION TYPE MAY OCCUR OUT OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND UPPER MIDWEST...WITH HIGHTEMPERATURES FALLING TO A GOOD 10-15 DEG BELOW AVERAGE..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Euro ensembles look like a go for snow over the Dakotas as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Paradise Ranier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 From Blue Hill A large building fire broke in Quincy Center late this morning and the black smoke could still be seen early this afternoon to the ENE. Visibility was reduced to about 10 miles in that direction while the mountains of southern New Hampshire could be seen 60 to 70 to the northwest with just some light distant haze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Definitely a colder look again on the late frame of the euro ensembles with more ridging into AK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 From Blue Hill A large building fire broke in Quincy Center late this morning and the black smoke could still be seen early this afternoon to the ENE. Visibility was reduced to about 10 miles in that direction while the mountains of southern New Hampshire could be seen 60 to 70 to the northwest with just some light distant haze. It was an Historic Masonic Temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 From Blue Hill A large building fire broke in Quincy Center late this morning and the black smoke could still be seen early this afternoon to the ENE. Visibility was reduced to about 10 miles in that direction while the mountains of southern New Hampshire could be seen 60 to 70 to the northwest with just some light distant haze. Ginxy did I not take you off the email list? I don't observe there anymore but I thought I did, unless you are getting that off bluehill.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Ginxy did I not take you off the email list? I don't observe there anymore but I thought I did, unless you are getting that off bluehill.org.thankfully I still get those awesome summaries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Going to Logan today helped me understand how it doesn't represent Boston as a whole, pretty far out in the harbor. Also lots of state troopers carrying Automatic weapons, kind of unsettling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It was an Historic Masonic Temple. Sacrificial burning gone wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 thankfully I still get those awesome summaries I could've sworn I took you off, hmm. The Daily Discussion has an email address at the bottom to request removal. Honestly, I just have them automatically sent to a folder in my Inbox because I find it redundant receiving them on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 I could've sworn I took you off, hmm. The Daily Discussion has an email address at the bottom to request removal. Honestly, I just have them automatically sent to a folder in my Inbox because I find it redundant receiving them on a daily basis. Sounds he wants to be on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 That fire was visible to my NW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Ryan's boss says enjoy the last few fleeting days of summer folks..It's almost over..Just get thru this week and get to the fropa this weekend Brad Field @BradNBCCT3h enjoy the warmth the first week of October...the 2nd week looks transitional...the 3rd week looks cold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 That fire was visible to my NW. Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Sounds he wants to be on it? Wasn't sure if he was being sarcastic. I'm pretty gullible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You know its a boring pattern when smoke particulates showing on radar is the big discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I could've sworn I took you off, hmm. The Daily Discussion has an email address at the bottom to request removal. Honestly, I just have them automatically sent to a folder in my Inbox because I find it redundant receiving them on a daily basis.no please I like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You're right of course it's so far out we shouldn't get wrapped up in the details, but what it's not suggesting is any help from the Atlantic meaning even if the +PNA came to pass there's no guarantee we don't see something drop down and lift out west of us. Pattern wise it would be a step up IMO as the amplification alone is a positive sign.It looks as if the trough will initially remain well west of us with the strong +NAO pattern; the Atlantic is miserable for bringing cold into the East. Also, the PV is centered over the Asian Arctic/Siberia with the +EPO making Canada fairly mild. The Euro OP starts to change this at the end as ridging builds northward into Alaska which should begin a transition to colder in North America. Anyone who thinks that October is going to finish below normal is nuts IMO. Sorry Blizz. We'll be at least +5 after the first 7-10 days and the cold is going to hit the Plains and Upper Midwest long before the East. Overall October looks warm, but that's not a bad thing for winter, at least in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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