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October 2013 Observations & Discussions


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... The growing season has ended for interior portions of
northeastern New Jersey... southeastern New York and southern
Connecticut... 

For Passaic and western portions of Bergen... Essex... and Union
counties in New Jersey... Orange... Putnam... Rockland... and northern
portions of Westchester counties in New York... and northern
portions of Fairfield... New Haven... Middlesex... and New London
counties in Connecticut... the average date of the first freeze
occurred 2 to 3 weeks ago.

As of this morning... October 26th... most of these areas
experienced several hours of freezing temperatures.

Based on this information... the National Weather Service frost and
freeze program for these areas has ended and will resume during
our next growing season in the Spring.

Note that frost advisories and freeze watches and warnings will
continue to be issued for coastal CT... southern Westchester... New
York City and Long Island... and Hudson and eastern portions of
Bergen... Union... and Essex counties in northeastern New Jersey
until their growing season ends.

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As we progress into November the latest guidance continues to show a warm up between fronts/troughs 10/30 - 11/1/.  Beyond there - the ecm and gfs dig a trough into the east with another shot of some chilly air later next weekend.  This next shot of cool  (11/2 - 11/4 or 5) looks more transient with another trough pushing into the west coast forcing ridging east.  We'll see where the 12z guidance takes us but the early part of November looks like it may be a back and forth between cold shots and warmer weather averaging near normal.   Temps could reach or exceed 70 next thu or fri, perhaps for Halloween.

 

As far a rain the next shot for meaningful precip would be with the front around 11/1 into next weekend. 

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the awos across from mother moose cake shop had a low of 32 this morning...My mercury max min was 36 this morning...

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/gmap.php?zoom=7&extents=37.422526,-79.650879,42.472097,-70.532227&density=1

Yeah that site is just a half mile or so from me, the sensors are far from any structures so that probobly explains the lower readings.
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Temps could reach or exceed 70 next thu or fri, perhaps for Halloween.

Translation: Temps could reach or exceed the low to mid 60's....

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All vegetable plants in my garden killed last night, except for the brussels sprouts which will be going strong for the next several weeks. Always sad to see the end of the tomato plants.

 

 

 

Yep very hard freeze last night, it seems more often then not that our growing season ends before nov 1st

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Yep very hard freeze last night, it seems more often then not that out growing season ends before nov 1st

 

 

The average for my area is October 18th I believe for first 32F, last freeze around the 20th of April. I can't really remember a year, at least recently, that was after November 1st.

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The average for my area is October 18th I believe for first 32F, last freeze around the 20th of April. I can't really remember a year, at least recently, that was after November 1st.

 

 

yeah it seems the last few years have been in october. Amazing diff between here and NYC!

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Yep very hard freeze last night, it seems more often then not that our growing season ends before nov 1st

 

 

I don't consider it the complete end of the growing season though. I mentioned I will still have brussels sprouts the next few weeks, but the raspberries are still fine out there as well. The freeze last night wasn't enough to damage them. Most things are finished, but I don't consider it the complete end of the growing season until there are no vegetables or fruits left. There are a few crops that are very hardy and keep going until late November at least.

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Very close to peak here now, probably around 70-75% changed. Give it another few days and we'll really "turn the switch" for the final burst of color. Looks like our typical Halloween peak this year.

Oaks are still pretty green for the most part, though partially turning. They generally explode around Halloween or Nov 1st-2nd almost like clockwork.

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I don't consider it the complete end of the growing season though. I mentioned I will still have brussels sprouts the next few weeks, but the raspberries are still fine out there as well. The freeze last night wasn't enough to damage them. Most things are finished, but I don't consider it the complete end of the growing season until there are no vegetables or fruits left. There are a few crops that are very hardy and keep going until late November at least.

 

 

Hard freeze is usually what kills everything, and that entails temperatures falling to 26F or lower for at least a few hours.

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Hard freeze is usually what kills everything, and that entails temperatures falling to 26F or lower for at least a few hours.

 

 

Yeah, it wasn't a true hard freeze. Only enough to kill the delicate crops like tomatoes and peppers. I hope to get raspberries and brussels sprouts until late November at least.

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When NYC avg first freeze?

here's the whole list...

first and last freeze dates in Central Park...

season....first.freeze....last.freeze..

1876-77.......10/15.......4/08

1877-78.......11/07.......3/26

1878-79.......11/05.......4/06

1879-80.......10/25.......4/12

1880-81.......11/18.......4/07

1881-82.......11/22.......4/12

1882-83.......11/03.......4/03

1883-84.......11/12.......4/06

1884-85.......11/19.......4/14

1885-86.......11/01.......4/04

1886-87.......11/07.......4/19

1887-88.......10/30.......4/25

1888-89.......11/17.......3/31

1889-90.......10/24.......4/19

1890-91.......11/21.......5/06

1891-92.......11/04.......4/25

1892-93.......11/11.......3/30

1893-94.......11/15.......4/09

1894-95.......11/07.......4/05

1895-96.......11/12.......4/08

1896-97.......11/23.......4/20

1897-98.......11/18.......4/07

1898-99.......11/24.......4/06

1899-00.......11/12.......4/11

1900-01.......11/15.......3/31

1901-02.......11/10.......3/20

1902-03.......12/05.......4/05

1903-04.......11/07.......4/20

1904-05.......10/31.......3/15

1905-06.......11/14.......4/01

1906-07.......11/29.......4/03

1907-08.......12/03.......4/05

1908-09.......11/04.......4/11

1909-10.......11/30.......3/18

1910-11.......11/20.......4/03

1911-12.......11/03.......4/04

1912-13.......11/03.......3/28

1913-14.......11/11.......4/13

1914-15.......11/10.......4/04

1915-16.......11/18.......4/09

1916-17.......11/15.......4/10

1917-18.......10/31.......4/12

1918-19.......11/24.......4/26

1919-20.......11/14.......4/11

1920-21.......11/12.......4/11

1921-22.......11/06.......4/21

1922-23.......11/21.......4/14

1923-24.......11/09.......4/03

1924-25.......11/16.......4/21

1925-26.......10/29.......4/20

1926-27.......11/04.......3/28

1927-28.......11/07.......4/16

1928-29.......10/30.......3/18

1929-30.......11/22.......4/24

1930-31.......11/05.......3/14

1931-32.......11/07.......4/13

1932-33.......11/20.......3/25

1933-34.......10/26.......3/29

1934-35.......11/14.......4/16

1935-36.......11/23.......4/08

1936-37.......10/26.......3/31

1937-38.......11/21.......4/07

1938-39.......11/24.......4/13

1939-40.......11/13.......4/15

1940-41.......10/19.......3/31

1941-42.......11/25.......2/28

1942-43.......11/13.......4/16

1943-44.......11/15.......4/06

1944-45.......11/23.......3/11

1945-46.......11/21.......3/12

1946-47.......11/23.......3/31

1947-48.......11/19.......4/04

1948-49.......12/11.......3/20

1949-50.......11/22.......4/14

1950-51.......11/16.......3/27

1951-52.......11/03.......3/17

1952-53.......11/29.......3/11

1953-54.......11/06.......4/04

1954-55.......11/10.......3/29

1955-56.......11/19.......3/28

1956-57.......11/10.......3/25

1957-58.......11/11.......4/09

1958-59.......11/28.......3/29

1959-60.......11/17.......3/27

1960-61.......11/07.......3/21

1961-62.......11/10.......3/09

1962-63.......11/07.......3/23

1963-64.......12/01.......4/05

1964-65.......11/21.......4/01

1965-66.......10/29.......3/29

1966-67.......11/04.......4/12

1967-68.......11/08.......4/06

1968-69.......11/21.......4/01

1969-70.......10/23.......4/11

1970-71.......11/23.......3/27

1971-72.......11/08.......4/09

1972-73.......10/20.......3/21

1973-74.......11/10.......4/10

1974-75.......10/19.......4/10

1975-76.......10/31.......4/12

1976-77.......10/27.......4/10

1977-78.......11/14.......4/03

1978-79.......11/25.......4/08

1979-80.......11/30.......4/17

1980-81.......11/16.......3/21

1981-82.......11/25.......4/08

1982-83.......11/13.......3/30

1983-84.......11/13.......3/18

1984-85.......11/19.......4/10

1985-86.......12/02.......3/22

1986-87.......11/13.......4/01

1987-88.......11/11.......3/23

1988-89.......10/31.......3/22

1989-90.......11/18.......3/28

1990-91.......11/09.......4/13

1991-92.......11/26.......4/13

1992-93.......11/08.......3/20

1993-94.......11/21.......3/19

1994-95.......11/23.......4/06

1995-96.......11/09.......3/29

1996-97.......11/12.......4/10

1997-98.......11/13.......3/23

1998-99.......12/22.......3/16

1999-00.......11/30.......4/09

2000-01.......11/20.......3/28

2001-02.......12/16.......4/07

2002-03.......11/27.......4/08

2003-04.......11/09.......4/06

2004-05.......11/09.......3/16

2005-06.......11/18.......3/22

2006-07.......12/04.......4/09

2007-08.......11/11.......3/30

2008-09.......11/18.......3/24

2009-10.......12/07.......3/27

2010-11.......12/04.......3/29

2011-12.......12/10.......3/27

2012-13.......11/06.......3/23

NYC's latest 1st 32 day since 1876...

1998...12/22

2001...12/16

1948...12/11

2011...12/10

2009...12/07

1902...12/05

2010...12/04

2006...12/04

1907...12/03

1985...12/02

1963...12/01

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RECORD EVENT REPORT...CORRECTED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY
225 PM EDT SAT OCT 26 2013

...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE TIED AT ISLIP NY...

A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 32 DEGREES WAS SET AT ISLIP NY TODAY.
THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 32 SET IN 1987.
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