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ILN changed forecast, 2-4 now around here. No discussion out yet so don't know their reasoning. Thoughts?

I would take 2-4..whats funny is..Pataskala and Johnstown,that area has about 2 inches on the ground from yesterday..here in Newark 15 miles away..NOTHING!!  :axe:

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I would take 2-4..whats funny is..Pataskala and Johnstown,that area has about 2 inches on the ground from yesterday..here in Newark 15 miles away..NOTHING!!  :axe:

Right now I'd take 1-2. I hear you about yesterday. Here we had maybe 1/2 inch. In Marysville, they got 3-4! Radar does not look promising for tonight so 1-2 will be a stretch I think.

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Right now I'd take 1-2. I hear you about yesterday. Here we had maybe 1/2 inch. In Marysville, they got 3-4! Radar does not look promising for tonight so 1-2 will be a stretch I think.

Not sure what radar your looking at...but i believe it looks pretty solid!! Come on folks..let's have some thoughts on this!!

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the low is suppose to weaken....that's true...we'll see.   Wouldn't it be nice to get one of those classic I-70 deform bands to set up like we use to see with so many clippers of the past.

It's looking good right now..let it weaken in Western PA..LOL...Think their calling for 2-4!

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I figured you OH guys would get a kick out of this...but the 12z GGEM has you as the epicenter of snowfall in the lower 48 for the next 10 days. Basically 0.80 to 1.20" total liquid equivalent covers the entire state (don't mind the end time stamp, it's mis-labeled). :D

 

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Pretty decent burst near Chillicothe heading this way...so far it isn't falling apart too much. Should be good for 1-2" here, thinking maybe the upper half of that range is a bit likely here in Athens. This pattern could be decent for us in the Ohio Valley...Canadian as posted above would be the most fun though :lol:

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looks like between 1.5 and 2 in my backyard.  Oh well, not complaining the grass is now completely covered and there's no WTOD events in sight!     ILN is saying 1-2 tomorrow night with the arctic front, then another little one maybe later Wednesday....   Also looks like the potential for a pretty strong clipper parade in the extended.  Maybe we can get one of those to dig and tap. 

If you're a winter weather freak who enjoys the overall look and feel of winter, with bouts of refreshers and biting temps, this is your time to shine.....  If you're strictly a qpf whore, you might not be quite as satisfied. 

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looks like between 1.5 and 2 in my backyard.  Oh well, not complaining the grass is now completely covered and there's no WTOD events in sight!     ILN is saying 1-2 tomorrow night with the arctic front, then another little one maybe later Wednesday....   Also looks like the potential for a pretty strong clipper parade in the extended.  Maybe we can get one of those to dig and tap. 

If you're a winter weather freak who enjoys the overall look and feel of winter, with bouts of refreshers and biting temps, this is your time to shine.....  If you're strictly a qpf whore, you might not be quite as satisfied.

If you're a qpf whore, our area is a bad place to live. Having grown up in the suburbs of Philly, I miss the occasional big dogs that we would get, but I do not miss the constant awful summer humidity and the yellow tinted skies!

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If you're a qpf whore, our area is a bad place to live. Having grown up in the suburbs of Philly, I miss the occasional big dogs that we would get, but I do not miss the constant awful summer humidity and the yellow tinted skies!

 

it's all perspective too.  I lived in Bucks County PA from '74-'77 and we barely had a small puppy much less a big dog during that time.  Moved back out here for the winter of '77-'78 and thought CMH was the arctic circle.

 

Philly has had an unusually snowy winter so far...mostly due to that big surprise a few weeks ago.  And granted they get the big dog every few years....but I'd still roll the dice and take my chances as a winter wx lover and choose CMH over Philly any day in that regard.

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:) today is my zippety doo dah glass half full day :)

 

Consider we are within a couple of inces of our seasonal average and it's only the 3rd week of January.  Also consider we got here while missing out on the subforum Big Dog 2 weeks ago.   That's not bad.

 

I will say this however. If we have another repeat of January 5th....that smile will become :gun_bandana:

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it's all perspective too.  I lived in Bucks County PA from '74-'77 and we barely had a small puppy much less a big dog during that time.  Moved back out here for the winter of '77-'78 and thought CMH was the arctic circle.

 

Philly has had an unusually snowy winter so far...mostly due to that big surprise a few weeks ago.  And granted they get the big dog every few years....but I'd still roll the dice and take my chances as a winter wx lover and choose CMH over Philly any day in that regard.

Seems a few of us grew up in Philly area. We moved here in '07 just in time for the March '08 storm. Then, one year we had clipper after clipper that just blew up over our heads! I was thinking this area is great for snow. But then I sat here and watched that epic winter on the east coast a few years back when they had about 4 major snow storms. Two of them within a week of each other. I'm in Jay's camp. The Blizzard of '96 will never be touched living out here.
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Seems a few of us grew up in Philly area. We moved here in '07 just in time for the March '08 storm. Then, one year we had clipper after clipper that just blew up over our heads! I was thinking this area is great for snow. But then I sat here and watched that epic winter on the east coast a few years back when they had about 4 major snow storms. Two of them within a week of each other. I'm in Jay's camp. The Blizzard of '96 will never be touched living out here.

 

I'll still take CMH winter climo over I-95 cities.....south of Boston that is.  

 

Here's my arguments:

 

True they get the Biggest part of a big dog....however...it is rare for an HECS not to affect us as well.   In the 96 storm we picked up 12".  In superstorm '93 we could smell the 12-20" amounts but granted we were literally about 25 miles too far west, eastern OH was buried.   PDll we picked up 15" over the two days.   Even during the mid-atlantic's historic winter of '09-'10 we picked up lots of snow from those storms as well.   Now of course you can argue that where we got a foot, they got 30"....fair enough, however that will never work the other way around.   When we get a big dog, ie March '08 they will always get rain.   On top of that, how often does a '96 or PDII come along?    You take away the few and far between blockbuster events and they'd probably be sitting at 6-8" average snowfall per year.   Clippers usually dry up, little lake effect, rare CAA snows...etc.  Lastly, snow pack has virtually no staying power.   

I'm also talking from experience.  I was born in Maine, lived in Flushing, NY. lived outside Philly, and went to college in Morgantown, I've been thru many eastcoast winters.  Once you get into New England....totally different story...I'd definitely take that winter climo over CMH.

 

I rest my case :P  ;)

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Seems a few of us grew up in Philly area. We moved here in '07 just in time for the March '08 storm. Then, one year we had clipper after clipper that just blew up over our heads! I was thinking this area is great for snow. But then I sat here and watched that epic winter on the east coast a few years back when they had about 4 major snow storms. Two of them within a week of each other. I'm in Jay's camp. The Blizzard of '96 will never be touched living out here.

 

Ohio's had much bigger snowfalls than '96.  And '78, while not a huge snow producer, is still one of the strongest storms to hit anywhere in the Eastern US.

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:) today is my zippety doo dah glass half full day :)

 

Consider we are within a couple of inces of our seasonal average and it's only the 3rd week of January.  Also consider we got here while missing out on the subforum Big Dog 2 weeks ago.   That's not bad.

 

I will say this however. If we have another repeat of January 5th....that smile will become :gun_bandana:

 

It looks highly likely that we'll reach our seasonal snowfall average before the end of the month.  Only 49 of 135 years have ever reached the current season average of 28.8" in Columbus.  Of those, only 13 reached that total before February. 

 

As far as what happened after that average was reached for those 13 winters... Here is the breakdown of how much fell after that date:

30"+: 2 of 13

25"+: 2 of 13

20"+: 4 of 13

15" or Less: 10 of 13

10" or Less: 2 of 13

 

So per climo, there doesn't tend to be a very good chance of a back-loaded winter.  Generally, February-April has normal to below normal snowfall.  The good thing is, after average, it's all just cake.

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I'll still take CMH winter climo over I-95 cities.....south of Boston that is.  

 

Here's my arguments:

 

True they get the Biggest part of a big dog....however...it is rare for an HECS not to affect us as well.   In the 96 storm we picked up 12".  In superstorm '93 we could smell the 12-20" amounts but granted we were literally about 25 miles too far west, eastern OH was buried.   PDll we picked up 15" over the two days.   Even during the mid-atlantic's historic winter of '09-'10 we picked up lots of snow from those storms as well.   Now of course you can argue that where we got a foot, they got 30"....fair enough, however that will never work the other way around.   When we get a big dog, ie March '08 they will always get rain.   On top of that, how often does a '96 or PDII come along?    You take away the few and far between blockbuster events and they'd probably be sitting at 6-8" average snowfall per year.   Clippers usually dry up, little lake effect, rare CAA snows...etc.  Lastly, snow pack has virtually no staying power.   

I'm also talking from experience.  I was born in Maine, lived in Flushing, NY. lived outside Philly, and went to college in Morgantown, I've been thru many eastcoast winters.  Once you get into New England....totally different story...I'd definitely take that winter climo over CMH.

 

I rest my case :P  ;)

Understood. Agree to disagree.

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I'll still take CMH winter climo over I-95 cities.....south of Boston that is.  

 

Here's my arguments:

 

True they get the Biggest part of a big dog....however...it is rare for an HECS not to affect us as well.   In the 96 storm we picked up 12".  In superstorm '93 we could smell the 12-20" amounts but granted we were literally about 25 miles too far west, eastern OH was buried.   PDll we picked up 15" over the two days.   Even during the mid-atlantic's historic winter of '09-'10 we picked up lots of snow from those storms as well.   Now of course you can argue that where we got a foot, they got 30"....fair enough, however that will never work the other way around.   When we get a big dog, ie March '08 they will always get rain.   On top of that, how often does a '96 or PDII come along?    You take away the few and far between blockbuster events and they'd probably be sitting at 6-8" average snowfall per year.   Clippers usually dry up, little lake effect, rare CAA snows...etc.  Lastly, snow pack has virtually no staying power.   

I'm also talking from experience.  I was born in Maine, lived in Flushing, NY. lived outside Philly, and went to college in Morgantown, I've been thru many eastcoast winters.  Once you get into New England....totally different story...I'd definitely take that winter climo over CMH.

 

I rest my case :P  ;)

Case in point is tonight/tomorrow. This clipper is going to blossom enough to give Philly area a solid 3-6 while we try to squeeze out 1-2. Philly area I think has already had at least 2 moderate events? This would be 3.

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Was talking to Larry C..he is saying 2-4 for us here in central Ohio!

 

Seems reasonable especially based on recent model trends.

 

unreal that we are once again on the fringe....this time on the northern end.   On a good note. The euro puts down about 6-8" (based on a 1:10 ratio) over the next 10 days.   Major clipper parade.

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unreal that we are once again on the fringe....this time on the northern end.   On a good note. The euro puts down about 6-8" (based on a 1:10 ratio) over the next 10 days.   Major clipper parade.

And its imperative to note that all of these clippers will have ratios much better than 10-1. So if the 12z Euro verified qpf-wise, all of those snow areas would be higher.

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