OceanStWx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Yeah I heard something happened to the other sensor so this winter we'll have to use the one that freezes up... not stoked on that. Every time we have rime/snow/ice that thing is going to freeze up. Ugh. Speaking of observation equipment, buoy 44007 was exchanged in the last couple of days. We'll finally have full obs off of PWM this winter. I believe the blizzard knocked out the wind data, and the rest crapped out earlier this month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Somebody needs to go unfreeze the wind instruments on Mt. Mansfield. Also it looks like there were at least a couple of hours for Century Club attempts on MWN today. That means you have to walk the entire deck in 100 mph winds or greater. http://www.mountwashington.org/weather/comments/?year=2013&month=11#24-18-41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Getting some pretty decent gust again here with many in the high 30's and one 5 mins ago to 44 mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 man, not had to stay awake on the drive from Beantown (thank you B's for an OT win) home, winnnnndy, like excuse me sir, didn't mean to cut you off, the wind was moving everyone the whole 200 miles. Felt bad for the big guys on the road, 55 was maxed out for them. Franconia Notch was as usual an amazing mess, 13F at 3:30, blowing snow, a fine mixture of over aggressive and over frightened drivers competing for the single lane. Glad to be home, dark, desolate, 9F (first single for the season), still dropping, a wicked wind whipped inch here. Hoping the rink tarp is still there in the morning Happy Turkey day NNE. finally got ourselves a normal November. Got to go find my ski stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Witches' tit weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 gold miner's ass in the klondike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Witches' tit weather. Not even this cold in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvysnow79 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Gust to 126 on the rockpile. -55 wind chill. The last time I volunteered for the Observatory was Feb 2009. On Sunday the 8th we had a very similar day to today, winds ultimately gusted to 126 mph that day as well. The edutrip was stranded up there as the snowcat turned back due to the conditions. In this case the sustained 100 came after dark, but earlier in the day when winds were sustained in the 80s gusting to over 100 we all went out on the deck and tried walking/crawling around. Two of the observers later that night did attempt the Century Club and actually made it, but when they came back in, they realized sustained had dropped down to 95mph!! For those of you who are members there is an Obscast with video of us out there from that date. Although I look like I am holding my ground, more than likely I was actually sliding backwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yeah I heard something happened to the other sensor so this winter we'll have to use the one that freezes up... not stoked on that. Every time we have rime/snow/ice that thing is going to freeze up. Ugh. Yeah and the placement of the one there right now isn't the greatest either, so it can be partially sheltered from the stronger winds at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cool stuff, hvysnow! ^^^ The highest I dealt with on Washington was 55mph gusts. Of course, traversing the schist boulders in those winds is tricky to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvysnow79 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cool stuff, hvysnow! ^^^ The highest I dealt with on Washington was 55mph gusts. Of course, traversing the schist boulders in those winds is tricky to say the least. It was a blast!!! 55 is plenty while hiking for sure!!! That's the beauty of volunteering or working up there and just walking out and then walking back into all the comforts of home!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It is on my bucket list to go for the Century Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 MWN with a new record low of -15F, eclipsing the old record of -13F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Perhaps after the apps runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 12f. Nice reprieve from the winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 What is the saying? Ice in November that will support a duck means the rest of winter is just mud and muck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 5f. At least the winds have calmed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I was listening to Roger Hill’s broadcast and just heard that Winter Storm Watches are up for the upcoming midweek storm – I think this is the first one this season: 000 WWUS41 KBTV 250841 WSWBTV URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT 341 AM EST MON NOV 25 2013 NYZ026>031-034-035-087-VTZ001>012-016>019-252100- /O.NEW.KBTV.WS.A.0003.131127T0500Z-131128T0500Z/ NORTHERN ST. LAWRENCE-NORTHERN FRANKLIN-EASTERN CLINTON- SOUTHEASTERN ST. LAWRENCE-SOUTHERN FRANKLIN-WESTERN CLINTON- WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-SOUTHWESTERN ST. LAWRENCE-GRAND ISLE- WESTERN FRANKLIN-ORLEANS-ESSEX-WESTERN CHITTENDEN-LAMOILLE- CALEDONIA-WASHINGTON-WESTERN ADDISON-ORANGE-WESTERN RUTLAND- WINDSOR-EASTERN FRANKLIN-EASTERN CHITTENDEN-EASTERN ADDISON- EASTERN RUTLAND- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MASSENA...MALONE...PLATTSBURGH... STAR LAKE...SARANAC LAKE...TUPPER LAKE...DANNEMORA... LAKE PLACID...PORT HENRY...TICONDEROGA...OGDENSBURG...POTSDAM... GOUVERNEUR...ALBURGH...SOUTH HERO...ST. ALBANS...NEWPORT... ISLAND POND...BURLINGTON...JOHNSON...STOWE...ST. JOHNSBURY... MONTPELIER...MIDDLEBURY...VERGENNES...BRADFORD...RANDOLPH... RUTLAND...SPRINGFIELD...WHITE RIVER JUNCTION...ENOSBURG FALLS... RICHFORD...UNDERHILL...BRISTOL...RIPTON...EAST WALLINGFORD... KILLINGTON 341 AM EST MON NOV 25 2013 ...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BURLINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING. * LOCATIONS...THE ENTIRE NORTH COUNTRY * HAZARD TYPES...SNOW...SLEET...FREEZING RAIN. * ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATION 6 INCHES OR MORE IS POSSIBLE... ALONG WITH A TRACE TO A TENTH OF AN INCH OF ICE. * MAXIMUM SNOWFALL RATE...1 TO 2 INCHES PER HOUR...MAINLY WEDNESDAY NIGHT. * TIMING...LIGHT SNOW WILL BEGIN TO FALL LATE TUESDAY NIGHT...CHANGING OVER TO A MIX OF SNOW...SLEET...RAIN AND FREEZING RAIN BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. BY LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AS COLDER AIR RETURNS TO THE AREA...PRECIPITATION WILL CHANGE BACK TO ALL SNOW WITH THE BEST CHANCES OF ACCUMULATING SNOW WEDNESDAY NIGHT. * IMPACTS...HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS CAN BE EXPECTED. * WINDS...SOUTHEAST WINDS 10 TO 20 MPH...BECOMING NORTH 10 TO 15 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT. * TEMPERATURES...LOWS IN THE LOWER 20S. HIGHS IN THE MID 30S. * VISIBILITIES...DOWN TO A HALF A MILE AT TIMES IN HEAVIER SNOWFALL. Overall it looks like one of these sandwich storms around here with the snow on the front and back ends, with mix/rain in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Maybe the maine ski areas will get some backend snow. Otherwise 1-4" rain progged. Ugh. What a waste of precip then right back to cold. Hope this isnt the theme for the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Well it looks like I am taking one for the team as I won't be here We'd night. I will be on LI for the holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 11.9F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Interesting developments viz the midweek winter storm. Looks like a front end/warm front snow (3-5) for wednesday am with then a change over to rain (for the mtns as well) with back-end upslope snows going pretty hard overnight wednseday into thursday. Not in love with the duration of the upslope period. Given the track - bet Whiteface and the ADK (I know not NNE) do very well. 87 can be the dividing line /tween snow and rain with these tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Interesting developments viz the midweek winter storm. Looks like a front end/warm front snow (3-5) for wednesday am with then a change over to rain (for the mtns as well) with back-end upslope snows going pretty hard overnight wednseday into thursday. Not in love with the duration of the upslope period. Given the track - bet Whiteface and the ADK (I know not NNE) do very well. 87 can be the dividing line /tween snow and rain with these tracks. I thought we were looking at rain during the day Wednesday before changing over in the evening??? Trying to figure out when to drive up from NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I thought we were looking at rain during the day Wednesday before changing over in the evening??? Trying to figure out when to drive up from NYC. The way it looks to me is some front end frozen Tuesday night, rain on Wed, back to snow Wed night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 coldest of the season on the hill, 3F. Pretty impressive for pre Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The way it looks to me is some front end frozen Tuesday night, rain on Wed, back to snow Wed night. That's what I meant. Snow into wed am (early). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 That's what I meant. Snow into wed am (early). Gonna be a lot of rain in the middle...but the flash freeze and upslope could be interesting. I could see about what this last event produced...like 3-6/4-8" on the backside for the ski areas. Duration sucks for much more. There's really only maybe 6 hours where it looks good, then maybe another 6 hours of -SN/--SN. The big events definitely meet the 12+ hour criteria. Positives though look like cut-off H85 and H7 lows just north of FVE, and a fairly deep layer cyclonic flow. And the whole deal gets north of FVE, which is the sweet spot. If we can clut off the H5 low, that will slow it down a bit. My first guess would be Froude near 1 or higher with good mixing in the CAA and strong, deep WNW flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 That's what I meant. Snow into wed am (early). cool. Thanks guys. I'm thinking between 10am and 4pm wednesday, will be heavy rain and wind but no frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Gonna be a lot of rain in the middle...but the flash freeze and upslope could be interesting. I could see about what this last event produced...like 3-6/4-8" on the backside for the ski areas. Duration sucks for much more. There's really only maybe 6 hours where it looks good, then maybe another 6 hours of -SN/--SN. The big events definitely meet the 12+ hour criteria. Positives though look like cut-off H85 and H7 lows just north of FVE, and a fairly deep layer cyclonic flow. And the whole deal gets north of FVE, which is the sweet spot. If we can clut off the H5 low, that will slow it down a bit. My first guess would be Froude near 1 or higher with good mixing in the CAA and strong, deep WNW flow. 850 rh dries out so fast we need to really slow down the upper level low movement. I agree we need 8-12hrs+ for real deal upslope snow to fire. Not that 4-6 inches of fluff isn't a good finish. But if you want to really get excited you need to see that upslope pattern last from like 4pm to 8am . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 cool. Thanks guys. I'm thinking between 10am and 4pm wednesday, will be heavy rain and wind but no frozen. Sounds about right. Can't rule out some low level valley icing though. These events can get tricky in sheltered valleys where stale cold air lingers at the surface producing some dangerous conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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