MikeGold Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Met..now up to 3"..dang my mtn is like almost 3000 feet higher but has received less snow..there is no justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Met..now up to 3"..dang my mtn is like almost 3000 feet higher but has received less snow..there is no justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Met1985 Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 Met..now up to 3"..dang my mtn is like almost 3000 feet higher but has received less snow..there is no justice! Lol well I guess just the way the bands came in. We just got hit all day and again tonight we are getting rocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Interesting setup this time in buncombe Co. Just drove from my parents house in enka back to my apt downtown and I went from blizzard conditions to dry pavement and clear skies. There are main roads covered in snow on one side of the county and dry pavement on the other! This is why we mountain folk love the weather/snow so much cause you just never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Mt LeConte only picked up 4.5" of snow yesterday for a total of 6" on the ground. Interestingly low. Looking at the previous BUFKIT soundings..it showed moisture really not reaching about 850 mb if that suggesting that maybe the higher peaks were actually above most of the snow clouds yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 First time in two years we have reached the single digits. We had a low of 6 degrees with 4.1 inches of snow on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Congrats '85 thats what I call bitter cold. That snow coverage and reduced friction cant help the winds either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Lol well I guess just the way the bands came in. We just got hit all day and again tonight we are getting rocked. Met, looking closely at the SAT image this morning..it does appear that there was a band of heavier snow that went through Haywood County..and you can trace it all the way back into Kentucky. I suspect the rather narrow Lake Michigan moisture plume caused the band to be where it was. The Jackson/Haywood County line seemed to be were it ended. My own mtn ridge marked the very last snowshowers/flurries before they dried up completely just to the South of the mtn. Still 3" inches isn't too bad a November storm. Edit: One other possibility..because of the lower inversion heights..wind/snowclouds..followed Interstate 40/River SE into Haywood county taking advantage of the lower elevations at the TN border to sneak a beefy snow band further SE than other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks for the insight Mike, I think there is merit to both observations. It seems when we have excessive moisture available, that area really cashes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted November 28, 2013 Author Share Posted November 28, 2013 Congrats '85 thats what I call bitter cold. That snow coverage and reduced friction cant help the winds either. Thanks. With the wind dying down and the snow on the ground I thought we might have a chance at seeing some very cold readings this morning. Met, looking closely at the SAT image this morning..it does appear that there was a band of heavier snow that went through Haywood County..and you can trace it all the way back into Kentucky. I suspect the rather narrow Lake Michigan moisture plume caused the band to be where it was. The Jackson/Haywood County line seemed to be were it ended. My own mtn ridge marked the very last snowshowers/flurries before they dried up completely just to the South of the mtn. Still 3" inches isn't too bad a November storm. Edit: One other possibility..because of the lower inversion heights..wind/snowclouds..followed Interstate 40/River SE into Haywood county taking advantage of the lower elevations at the TN border to sneak a beefy snow band further SE than other areas. Ya Mike this is the first Thanksgiving I can remember having snow on the ground. That is interesting about the river because it is right below us at the foot on the mountain pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Thanks for the insight Mike, I think there is merit to both observations. It seems when we have excessive moisture available, that area really cashes in. Looking at the NWS snowfall map..now I'm ticked! Their map even has the heaviest snowfall right over me although I believe that is based on 6" that fell at Soco Gap..no more than 3 miles away and 3000 feet lower down. I think perhaps the wind crossing the Maggie Valley did me in. Only a slight change to a more NW direction might have made the difference. Last season-it dropped more than 75 inches of mostly upslope snow so I know it can do it. However, I have noted that Soco gap really is a snow magnet..and I have watched the snow clouds from there narrowly miss me and hit Waterrock Knob instead. It seems that convection likes to follow the ridge line along the Balsams mtns as it heads SE. The subrange on the Eastern side of the ridge..the Cataloochee Divide probably is what is creating downsloping for me in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Very impressed with the recent air mass and the ground temps as we still have several places around Haywood county that have snow on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Very impressed with the recent air mass and the ground temps as we still have several places around Haywood county that have snow on the ground. Looks like it be a quiet 2 weeks coming up for the mtns unfortunately despite most of the rest of the country getting dumping on. Lots of rain but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Looks like it be a quiet 2 weeks coming up for the mtns unfortunately despite most of the rest of the country getting dumping on. Lots of rain but not much else. Ya I am liking the general pattern for the country but the SE ridge is looking stout and if we do not cash in this month then something is very wrong. I like the look of some blocking taking place in about a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I have placed a topic in the general forum regarding the revised NWS snow measurement guide... http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/41853-new-nws-snow-measurement-guide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I have placed a topic in the general forum regarding the revised NWS snow measurement guide... http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/41853-new-nws-snow-measurement-guide/ Thanks famartin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I have placed a topic in the general forum regarding the revised NWS snow measurement guide... http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/41853-new-nws-snow-measurement-guide/ Yep thanks for the link. Some good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Mike or 85, either of you think the models are having trouble handling the Continental Arctic nature of the upcoming airmass or will the warm nosing be to strong in the mountains to even matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Mike or 85, either of you think the models are having trouble handling the Continental Arctic nature of the upcoming airmass or will the warm nosing be to strong in the mountains to even matter? Every model agrees this will be a non-event for the NC mtns although there should be few hours of snow showers Monday night as the storm system exits. It doesn't even look close so even if the models aren't properly handled the shallow cold air-they probably are handling it correctly at 850mb and there it looks positively toasty. EDIT..New NAM looks a little colder with 850 not far from freezing. However, the whole sounding shows basically above freezing to 680 mb. So it a nutshell-slim chances of ice but no chance of snow until the very end of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Thanks for the response Mike. Either way it will be interesting to watch this unfold and to see which cad areas (if any) get icing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks for the response Mike. Either way it will be interesting to watch this unfold and to see which cad areas (if any) get icing. Pretty much what Mike said. I think we might see some backside snow when the front comes through but as to how much snow and intensity we are just to far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Looks like the Northern mountains are going to get in on some sleet and freezing rain this weekend with winter storm watches out. Going to be a nasty weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hvward Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Looks like the Northern mountains are going to get in on some sleet and freezing rain this weekend with winter storm watches out. Going to be a nasty weekend. Yeah 85' I would hate to have plan's in App this weekend. I read on the uncc basketball message board that some of our fans are heading up to App Sunday for the game... Should be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 Yeah 85' I would hate to have plan's in App this weekend. I read on the uncc basketball message board that some of our fans are heading up to App Sunday for the game... Should be interesting Lol ya looks like Boone may get hammered with ice this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K4CF Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Reposted here from the CAD thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 No ice on the mtn this morning..just moderate rain showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 Yep temps warmed substantially this morning to 36 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGold Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yep temps warmed substantially this morning to 36 degrees. Been a crazy amount of rain up top (about 1 foot in the last 30 days.) and seems like gales are starting to hit the mountain every 3 days or so. Wind storm Friday night caused some tree damage. Another wind storm tomorrow morning possible with some hurricane force gusts suggested by the NAM. Lots of weather..but not really much Winter to talk about. The GFS suggests a very high elevation(5500 feet+) snowfall possible this coming Saturday..in the 6 to 10" range. Euro not on board but worth watching how this possible scenario develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Been a crazy amount of rain up top (about 1 foot in the last 30 days.) and seems like gales are starting to hit the mountain every 3 days or so. Wind storm Friday night caused some tree damage. Another wind storm tomorrow morning possible with some hurricane force gusts suggested by the NAM. Lots of weather..but not really much Winter to talk about. The GFS suggests a very high elevation(5500 feet+) snowfall possible this coming Saturday..in the 6 to 10" range. Euro not on board but worth watching how this possible scenario develops. welcome to the rain forest of sw nc mike. What got you interested in this area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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