Ginx snewx Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Box has a dedicated page http://www.weather.gov/box/1938hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Having trouble with the software but please add stories, maps, images from what was certainly the greatest storm in modern New England history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hey Ginxy!!! Thanks for posting this today. I was sleeping when it went live, and was planning to do this. My colleague, Stephanie, did a GREAT job with this project!!! I haven't had a chance to watch the new videos yet (yes, they are NEW!!). Something to look forward to. --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hey Ginxy!!! Thanks for posting this today. I was sleeping when it went live, and was planning to do this. My colleague, Stephanie, did a GREAT job with this project!!! I haven't had a chance to watch the new videos yet (yes, they are NEW!!). Something to look forward to. --Turtle Nice page, hopefully we hear some great stories here. I know my passion for weather stems from the 38 cane. Having grown up in the town of Westerly RI which suffered the highest casualties and severe destruction, I was exposed to generational stories and fear from a very early age. My Dad was a first responder and witnessed the carnage first hand. I have spoken with a lot of the residents over the years and the absolute consistent message was fear. none had ever or since experienced what an eye wall is all about. The ones who lived near the coast were always hesitant to speak but I did have the pleasure of having an extensive talk with local farmer Whit Davis whose family sheltered on Barn Island Ct the Moore family whose home was destroyed on Napatree Point RI by what they described as a 30-40 foot wall of water. They rode a portion of the roof upside down into Little Narragansett Bay ending up on Barn Island. Whit described for me how he and his father in the beginning stages of the storm lashed one of their barn roofs down which had started to fail. His descriptions were so vivid of the immense power and noise they encountered. One aspect he stressed was how cold it got that night and how crystal clear it was. He told me of seeing the fire in NL and wondering if the entire city had burned down. That storm did make Westerly one of the best prepared towns for future storms and one of the first to implement a strategic evacuation plan. Generations have passed down the stories and residents have heeded the calls every time a threat materializes. Last years Sandy destruction was another stark reminder to my hometown how fragile barrier beaches are and what the potential is. Napatree Pont before and after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Nice page, hopefully we hear some great stories here. I know my passion for weather stems from the 38 cane. Having grown up in the town of Westerly RI which suffered the highest casualties and severe destruction, I was exposed to generational stories and fear from a very early age. My Dad was a first responder and witnessed the carnage first hand. I have spoken with a lot of the residents over the years and the absolute consistent message was fear. none had ever or since experienced what an eye wall is all about. The ones who lived near the coast were always hesitant to speak but I did have the pleasure of having an extensive talk with local farmer Whit Davis whose family sheltered on Barn Island Ct the Moore family whose home was destroyed on Napatree Point RI by what they described as a 30-40 foot wall of water. They rode a portion of the roof upside down into Little Narragansett Bay ending up on Barn Island. Whit described for me how he and his father in the beginning stages of the storm lashed one of their barn roofs down which had started to fail. His descriptions were so vivid of the immense power and noise they encountered. One aspect he stressed was how cold it got that night and how crystal clear it was. He told me of seeing the fire in NL and wondering if the entire city had burned down. That storm did make Westerly one of the best prepared towns for future storms and one of the first to implement a strategic evacuation plan. Generations have passed down the stories and residents have heeded the calls every time a threat materializes. Last years Sandy destruction was another stark reminder to my hometown how fragile barrier beaches are and what the potential is. Napatree Pont before and after Likewise the descriptions I heard from Barrington, being able to walk on the debris across the coves without fall through. I remember working for a moving company and doing a job in the Alfred Drowne section of Barrington. They had us remove the cellar door to bring to the new house, which we thought was odd. However, on the door was inscribed "salvaged 9/22/38." Their parents had found it among the debris and had no idea where it came from, but thought it would be a nice monument to the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 We're putting together a nice story that will air on 9/20 the day before the anniversary. Have a number of interviews with survivors setup for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I was in 6th grade. Great blow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 We're putting together a nice story that will air on 9/20 the day before the anniversary. Have a number of interviews with survivors setup for Monday. I might have to tune in for a rare newscast! sounds cool. the 6pm newcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tornadomachine Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm really excited for the big event that Blue Hill is throwing on Saturday. Dr. Louis Uccellini is going to be speaking, and there'll be talks by authors and professors. I hope some really great stories will be there, as I've never heard much about the storm from my family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I was in 6th grade. Great blow!LolMy mom was a 6 month old and slept through it on a porch in Everett MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I'm really excited for the big event that Blue Hill is throwing on Saturday. Dr. Louis Uccellini is going to be speaking, and there'll be talks by authors and professors. I hope some really great stories will be there, as I've never heard much about the storm from my family.Get his snowstorm book if he has it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I might have to tune in for a rare newscast! sounds cool. the 6pm newcast? I'm guessing 5:30 p.m. but I'll let you know for sure. We have a lot that will be on the website too - I'm trying to put together a nice little section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 This picture is pretty sick given it's Keene, NH and not Montauk, LI. The scene would be unimaginable today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 This picture is pretty sick given it's Keene, NH and not Montauk, LI. The scene would be unimaginable today. It'll happen again... history repeats itself, it's just a matter of time. No doubt many will call it "unprecedented" though, and blame it all on climate change. The incredible stories and pictures never cease to amaze me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I still have never seen anything close to this storm up in interior MA (ORH specifically) in terms of straight line wind damage when viewing through the old pictures. I experienced the macroburst of 5/31/98 here that produced gust to 94mph (and unofficially 104mph at Holy Cross College) and drove around the next day viewing damage...and it doesn't stack up to the '38 pictures. No doubt that winds gusted over 100 knots in several spots well inland...probably particularly any south facing hills. But just an incredible storm nonetheless. It will eventually happen again, though there's a good chance none of us will be around the next time it does. The combo of forward speed and storm strength is tough to replicate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I still have never seen anything close to this storm up in interior MA (ORH specifically) in terms of straight line wind damage when viewing through the old pictures. I experienced the macroburst of 5/31/98 here that produced gust to 94mph (and unofficially 104mph at Holy Cross College) and drove around the next day viewing damage...and it doesn't stack up to the '38 pictures. No doubt that winds gusted over 100 knots in several spots well inland...probably particularly any south facing hills. But just an incredible storm nonetheless. It will eventually happen again, though there's a good chance none of us will be around the next time it does. The combo of forward speed and storm strength is tough to replicate. One thing about the wind damage is that the rain prior to the storm was exceptional. Many places already had serious flooding ongoing prior to the storm which really made the wind damage from uprooted trees a lot worse than it would have been otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 One thing about the wind damage is that the rain prior to the storm was exceptional. Many places already had serious flooding ongoing prior to the storm which really made the wind damage from uprooted trees a lot worse than it would have been otherwise. Yes I knew that much....there was a lot of structural damage though too which probably wouldn't have been affected much by the rain prior to the storm. Its hard to compare structural damage from different eras, but it was definitely bad. The tree damage definitely had some "Irene syndrome" though...tons of rain leading up to the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yes I knew that much....there was a lot of structural damage though too which probably wouldn't have been affected much by the rain prior to the storm. Its hard to compare structural damage from different eras, but it was definitely bad. The tree damage definitely had some "Irene syndrome" though...tons of rain leading up to the event. For sure! How much structural damage was there around ORH? I have seen in CT a lot of pics of steeples and chimneys blown down and along the coast some houses with roofs ripped off but I've always expected to see more roof damage given widespread cat 2 sustained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 no fall foliage that year all the leaves are gone!! This picture is pretty sick given it's Keene, NH and not Montauk, LI. The scene would be unimaginable today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 For sure! How much structural damage was there around ORH? I have seen in CT a lot of pics of steeples and chimneys blown down and along the coast some houses with roofs ripped off but I've always expected to see more roof damage given widespread cat 2 sustained. A lot of the photos are grainy, but some of the structural damage looks pretty impressive different shot of the first pic: RE: CT wind....I wonder if most of CT was too far west to get the worst winds...maybe far E/SE CT? The max LLJ (at least based on a lot of the obs) seemed to go up through RI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 http://www.sailsinc.org/durfee/38hurricane.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 A lot of the photos are grainy, but some of the structural damage looks pretty impressive different shot of the first pic: RE: CT wind....I wonder if most of CT was too far west to get the worst winds...maybe far E/SE CT? The max LLJ (at least based on a lot of the obs) seemed to go up through RI. Seems like Windham/New London Counties were right near the RMW on eastern eyewall. The eye solidly crossed over a large portion of central CT coast. The maps from landsea look pretty good based on damage I've seen. Some houses that are really banged up here look like they took a few direct tree hits too rather than pure wind damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 How much rain did ORH have being on the Eastern semi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 This is my favorite picture of the damage simply because this is the spot in Shore Rd in Westerly where my Dad responded to. His descriptions to me were exactly as this pictures. Notice in the distance the homes left standing on Atlantic Avenue barrier beach. This was the final resting place for a lot of folks. If you walk this area today you can still see debris from 38 scattered here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Found this on the inter-webs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 OKX has a page up http://www.weather.gov/okx/1938HurricaneHome a fact they posted I had never seen before Peak Wave Height: 50 ft. at Gloucester, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIcoastalWX Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 This is my favorite picture of the damage simply because this is the spot in Shore Rd in Westerly where my Dad responded to. His descriptions to me were exactly as this pictures. Notice in the distance the homes left standing on Atlantic Avenue barrier beach. This was the final resting place for a lot of folks. If you walk this area today you can still see debris from 38 scattered here and there. Incredible Picture. Just to get my bearings... Winnapaug Road would be off to the right of this picture...and this view is bascially looking across the pond towards where Sandy Shore Motel and Paddy's is today. State Beach would be off to the left... I think its wonderful how our town memorializes this event every year... not just on the 75th anniversary. You would be hard pressed to find anyone in this town, including school age kids, that isn't aware of the '38 hurricane. As it should be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 Incredible Picture. Just to get my bearings... Winnapaug Road would be off to the right of this picture...and this view is bascially looking across the pond towards where Sandy Shore Motel and Paddy's is today. State Beach would be off to the left... I think its wonderful how our town memorializes this event every year... not just on the 75th anniversary. You would be hard pressed to find anyone in this town, including school age kids, that isn't aware of the '38 hurricane. As it should be... yes where Winnapaug day camp was, think its a preserve now. check out google sat map of the area you can see the debris line from Sandy, pretty cool. Yes probably the most hurricane aware town in RI as it should be. Google street view today and debris line From Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 what the house in the way background looked like before and after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 aerial views from Ct historical society includes views of RI shore http://cslib.cdmhost.com/cdm/search/searchterm/1938%20hurricane/order/nosort This is the barrier beach in Misquamicut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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