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Upstate NY/North Country + adjacent ON, QC, VT: Heading into Fall


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The pattern looks quite cold for the next 1-2 weeks as pieces of the polar vortex split off from the Eurasian vortex and rotate around in the general area of southeast Canada to Greenland. It actually becomes a somewhat blocky pattern as a significant ridge and at times, a high over low or rex block, persist over the Pacific west coast.

 

There are also indications seen in the 12z Euro and GFS runs that there will be some positive height anomalies extending from the Pacific through the north pole and into Siberia. That will also help to keep the polar vortex from retreating back towards the north pole.

 

So at times, the pattern will likely become quite favorable for lake-effect snow. Exact wind directions are impossible to determine at this stage, but just having the PV in southeast Canada and the very cold air around significantly improve those odds.

 

BUF has a great discussion about all of this...folks here should give it a read...

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NWS posted winter weather advisories, but local weather guys aren't seeming to buy it.

The advisory says 4-6", but i find it odd neither 9wsyr, nor cnycentral are mentioning anything

more than flurries?  it would be nice to whiten things up around here....

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After we get 3" or so around here they issue a winter weather advisory haha. Nice little storm if that's what you call it lol. Still coming down but has let it a little. The ugly brown/green grass is gone. 26* and a little windy.

Here in Skan one of our better performing storms actually...6", snowing good here still. Really beautiful out

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After we get 3" or so around here they issue a winter weather advisory haha. Nice little storm if that's what you call it lol. Still coming down but has let it a little. The ugly brown/green grass is gone. 26* and a little windy.

That's the difference between being in the Buffalo forecast area or the Binghamton forecast area. Just across the Onondaga County line from you we've been under a WWA since yesterday afternoon with a forecast of 4 to 6 inches. We're close to verifying the low end of that already. Even channel 9 was on the low side with their 2 - 4 inch forecast for most of the area. They placed the area of heaviest accumulation further east over Madison County. At 8 AM the snow hadn't even started in Rome so the bullseye seems to be further west than what was forecasted.

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That's the difference between being in the Buffalo forecast area or the Binghamton forecast area. Just across the Onondaga County line from you we've been under a WWA since yesterday afternoon with a forecast of 4 to 6 inches. We're close to verifying the low end of that already. Even channel 9 was on the low side with their 2 - 4 inch forecast for most of the area. They placed the area of heaviest accumulation further east over Madison County. At 8 AM the snow hadn't even started in Rome so the bullseye seems to be further west than what was forecasted.

 

Yeah i knew the counties to the south of me were in a WWA... and also noticed the heavier snow is further west than what channel 9 had forecasted. The snow hit a brick wall it seems like it's not moving much at all. It stopped here for a bit but has picked back up again. I'll take what we have got but need a lot more to get the snowmobile out to ride. Guess i'll get the 4 wheeler out and plow the drive out though haha.

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ended with 7" or so here in Skaneateles. Beautiful...heavy, sticking snow

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That's an awesome picture. Thanks for posting. We received 1.4 inches from the initial burst that went through, and another few inches since that. I'd eyeball around 4 inches total since last night but will take accurate measurement later.

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About 6" here for event....finally an over performer, or at least a top end accum. from the NWS's overnight prog.

 

BTW, OT, but I haven't been posting a lot lately.  Going through some sort of health (and or anxiety or both) issue that hopefully will resolve over the next few weeks.  Sucks knowing (or thinking) that a headache/stiff neck lasting on and off for 3.5 months can drive one up the wall.  All tests are negative (MRI's cervical and head) but still have a couple more appointments to go.  I have good days and bad ones, (today pretty good).  Hope to be contributing more soon!!  For all in good health (both physical and mental) ....never take it for granted!!!

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About 6" here for event....finally an over performer, or at least a top end accum. from the NWS's overnight prog.

 

BTW, OT, but I haven't been posting a lot lately.  Going through some sort of health (and or anxiety or both) issue that hopefully will resolve over the next few weeks.  Sucks knowing (or thinking) that a headache/stiff neck lasting on and off for 3.5 months can drive one up the wall.  All tests are negative (MRI's cervical and head) but still have a couple more appointments to go.  I have good days and bad ones, (today pretty good).  Hope to be contributing more soon!!  For all in good health (both physical and mental) ....never take it for granted!!!

Get better soon!

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Get better soon!

Thanks, Ottawa.  I'm a scientist at heart, and it is fascinating when the brain goes into overdrive when things get a little out of whack physically. My headaches/neck are never bad (about 2 or 3 outta 10)....but a little lightheadedness and a feeling of "unwell" when sitting for some periods of time (but not all the time) usually at work....but just enough of to be a constant reminder that something's up.....Dr. of course just says "stress/anxiety"...which maybe it is or now is certainly is a contributing factor....It started in late Sept...but completely disappeared for 3 one week periods (in Oct., in Nov (when down in Disney) and once in mid-Dec.)...since then, no real breaks other than usually the afternoons.  It really does point to anxiety....which freakin' sucks!!!

 

Enough of that........looks really cold the next 10 days or so after tomorrow!

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Thanks, Ottawa.  I'm a scientist at heart, and it is fascinating when the brain goes into overdrive when things get a little out of whack physically. My headaches/neck are never bad (about 2 or 3 outta 10)....but a little lightheadedness and a feeling of "unwell" when sitting for some periods of time (but not all the time) usually at work....but just enough of to be a constant reminder that something's up.....Dr. of course just says "stress/anxiety"...which maybe it is or now is certainly is a contributing factor....It started in late Sept...but completely disappeared for 3 one week periods (in Oct., in Nov (when down in Disney) and once in mid-Dec.)...since then, no real breaks other than usually the afternoons.  It really does point to anxiety....which freakin' sucks!!!

 

Enough of that........looks really cold the next 10 days or so after tomorrow!

It sure does. Wouldn't be surprised to see Lake Erie freeze over and lake Huron start to freeze.

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About 6" here for event....finally an over performer, or at least a top end accum. from the NWS's overnight prog.

 

BTW, OT, but I haven't been posting a lot lately.  Going through some sort of health (and or anxiety or both) issue that hopefully will resolve over the next few weeks.  Sucks knowing (or thinking) that a headache/stiff neck lasting on and off for 3.5 months can drive one up the wall.  All tests are negative (MRI's cervical and head) but still have a couple more appointments to go.  I have good days and bad ones, (today pretty good).  Hope to be contributing more soon!!  For all in good health (both physical and mental) ....never take it for granted!!!

Sorry to hear that George...Hope it turns out ok...I had my stress related heart issues a cpl years ago. I'm still kicking and working out 5x a week now...I also had prolonged stiff neck and weird rear head pain several years ago...finally went to an MD and for me it just took a couple visits to a chiropractor to fix it. Damnedest thing.

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Sorry to hear that George...Hope it turns out ok...I had my stress related heart issues a cpl years ago. I'm still kicking and working out 5x a week now...I also had prolonged stiff neck and weird rear head pain several years ago...finally went to an MD and for me it just took a couple visits to a chiropractor to fix it. Damnedest thing.

Thank's Brian....check your mail.

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KART is on a roll as of late. :thumbsup:

 

 

 

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY
907 AM EST MON JAN 20 2014

**********************24 HOUR SNOWFALL**********************

LOCATION 24 HOUR TIME/DATE COMMENTS
SNOWFALL OF
/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...ERIE COUNTY...
1 N CLARENCE CENTER 1.6 700 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
BUFFALO 1.0 700 AM 1/20 NWS OFFICE
ESE KENMORE 0.7 750 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
1 NW KENMORE 0.6 600 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
1 NW WILLIAMSVILLE 0.5 830 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
3 E WILLIAMSVILLE 0.5 700 AM 1/20 COCORAHS

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
1 WSW WATERTOWN 9.9 730 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
3 S THERESA 9.0 800 AM 1/20 COCORAHS

...LEWIS COUNTY...
6 N CROGHAN 5.5 700 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
HIGHMARKET 4.8 253 AM 1/20 CO-OP OBSERVER
1 SSW GLENFIELD 4.0 600 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
5 SSW HARRISVILLE 3.8 530 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
1 NW CONSTABLEVILLE 3.0 500 AM 1/20 COCORAHS

...LIVINGSTON COUNTY...
AVON 0.6 737 AM 1/20 CO-OP OBSERVER

...MONROE COUNTY...
2 ENE BROCKPORT 0.5 829 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
5 WNW ROCHESTER 0.5 700 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
ROCHESTER INTL ARPT 0.5 700 AM 1/20 ASOS

...NIAGARA COUNTY...
1 NNE NORTH TONAWAND 1.0 700 AM 1/20 COCORAHS

...OSWEGO COUNTY...
1 NE PULASKI 9.0 700 AM 1/20 COCORAHS
SE MINETTO 2.4 715 AM 1/20 COCORAHS

...WAYNE COUNTY...
1 E NEWARK 4.5 700 AM 1/20 CO-OP OBSERVER

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About 6" here for event....finally an over performer, or at least a top end accum. from the NWS's overnight prog.

 

BTW, OT, but I haven't been posting a lot lately.  Going through some sort of health (and or anxiety or both) issue that hopefully will resolve over the next few weeks.  Sucks knowing (or thinking) that a headache/stiff neck lasting on and off for 3.5 months can drive one up the wall.  All tests are negative (MRI's cervical and head) but still have a couple more appointments to go.  I have good days and bad ones, (today pretty good).  Hope to be contributing more soon!!  For all in good health (both physical and mental) ....never take it for granted!!!

Sorry to hear that, i hope you get better soon. :)

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